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Old 03-11-2013, 01:35 PM    (permalink
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Montgomery used to go top 10 in mocks. Lol.

There you go, fixed that for ya! ;)

Scary huh?
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I still think he has a shot at late round 1 or early round 2. Tough guy who is relentless.
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I still think he has a shot at late round 1 or early round 2. Tough guy who is relentless.
C'mon now. That last part...really?
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Relentless when going against a team he feels like is worth playing hard against, yeah. He's totally relentless in those situations.
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He wasn't siphoning it, he was drinking it!

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So not only is he the guy who will blow Barrett Jones 5 yards backward one play but then be dominated by Michael Williams on the next one, but he's a degenerate as well.

What round did Greg Hardy go in?
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He was never that good anyway. 2nd/3rd round at best before all of this, IMO.
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So not only is he the guy who will blow Barrett Jones 5 yards backward one play but then be dominated by Michael Williams on the next one, but he's a degenerate as well.

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Sixth round. If Montgomery pans out like Hardy, some team will be very, very happy to get him that late.
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He was never that good anyway. 2nd/3rd round at best before all of this, IMO.
He was very good last year, though, so it's not fair to say he was never that good.
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He was very good last year, though, so it's not fair to say he was never that good.
Well not as good as people made out. Even last year I didn't really like him all that much. Never saw him as a 1st round prospect.
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He'd go a lot higher if he were a god damn mute.
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Moore had more sacks and TFL than Montgomery and Mingo combined, last season. In the same conference. For a weaker team. Plus he is two years younger than they are. I don't get it.
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Draft dopes have him falling out of the first round. He had about triple the production of Jordan last season.
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Draft dopes have him falling out of the first round. He had about triple the production of Jordan last season.
Moore and Jordan played two completely different roles for their respective defenses.
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Moore had more sacks and TFL than Montgomery and Mingo combined, last season. In the same conference. For a weaker team. Plus he is two years younger than they are. I don't get it.
I am still on the Moore wagon too. I wouldn't complain if Los Yets took him at 9.
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Moore and Jordan played two completely different roles for their respective defenses.
Didn't Oregon create a "special" role for Jordan to maximize his impact? Similar to the "Joker" role that Moore played the previous season after Von Miller left? I can't see moving Damontre from that position to normal DE spot would help his production. I think it was the first time in about 30 years that a DE led the defense in tackles for the team.
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Moore had more sacks and TFL than Montgomery and Mingo combined, last season. In the same conference. For a weaker team. Plus he is two years younger than they are. I don't get it.
Gotta like the age difference but people are forgetting that LSU simply doesn't turn their DE's loose very often. They don't use an attacking style defense which is a solid reason why, LSU players don't generate a lot of sacks. Michael Brockers went #14 in round 1 last year and he produced little in the way of sacks or TFL, that's just how LSU plays defensive football.
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I didn't think of all threads a Sam Montgomery one would be the one generating legit DE conversation.
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Gotta like the age difference but people are forgetting that LSU simply doesn't turn their DE's loose very often. They don't use an attacking style defense which is a solid reason why, LSU players don't generate a lot of sacks. Michael Brockers went #14 in round 1 last year and he produced little in the way of sacks or TFL, that's just how LSU plays defensive football.
That's incorrect. Both Sam and Mingo lined up wide a large amount this season to take advantage of their pass rushing ability, they just failed to make as many plays. Sam has always benefitted from having a great secondary, I imagine if their was film of all his sacks a good bit would be from coverage.

Brockers had 10 TFL, Sam and Mingo had upwards of 15 and near double digit sacks. Brockers was often taken out for the Mustang package in obvious pass rushing situations however. He was by far the most dominate LSU defensive line player out of those three. Sam or Mingo never had the dominate defensive performances like Brockers did in the Seccg.

LSU's defense is one of the most attacking philosophies in the nation.
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Something doesn't add up here. It's kinda like how LSU talked up Mettenberger in 2011 and how great he was at the time, yet never let him play despite trotting out abominations like Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee.

Montgomery was the guy who made plays for LSU. Why didn't they bench him if this was all true? Mingo was the guy who they replaced with Lavar Edwards.

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Happens every year. Some news is found about a player and then there is just some revisionist history about the life of a player. Their tape becomes mediocre, they were never really athletic, and they liked to kick puppies. Realistically shits always somewhere in the middle of the extremes of a player. It's like how Manti Te'o has one bad performance and a national scandal, and that wipes out all the rest of his tape. I want to call this Te'o Syndrome but I'm not sure if it exists.

Montegomery is a talented player and I can't tell you if he gets his head on but when he wants too he's a really good player. God knows if that happens but people change with time, when you're 20 whatever you have a lot of room for change.

I'd take him in the second or third, he's just too talented to pass up and if you have the guys to mentor him and push him, he might just be a big steal in this draft.
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