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Old 03-31-2013, 11:21 PM    (permalink
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Either way he is still better than Tavaris Jackson.
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Meh, I'll take Fitzmagic over Kolb. At least Fitzmagic tries to throw the ball downfield and has a cool beard.
Fitz was garbage behind a good O-Line last year, you shouldn't.
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Meh, I'll take Fitzmagic over Kolb. At least Fitzmagic tries to throw the ball downfield and has a cool beard.
Fitz might be the worst downfield starting QB in the NFL. His accuracy is nothing short of abysmal.
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Meh, I'll take Fitzmagic over Kolb. At least Fitzmagic tries to throw the ball downfield and has a cool beard.
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What does meh mean?
In this case, does it mean: Just Kidding?

Fitz was horrible, and he should be charged with Grand Theft for what he stoke from the Bills.

He's an interception waiting to happen any time he throws the ball beyond 20 yards.
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I like Kolb. He's a smart QB that you can win with, but he'll never stay healthy. This move doesn't make the Bills much better. Being in that division, you can't make incremental improvements and expect to compete.

I don't feel bad for the Bills at all. They've passed on a ton of QBs over the years when they NEEDED one. They deserve the lack of success they've had. They've also passed on offensive tackles when they needed those.

Since they drafted JP Losman, they've passed on Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman, Jimmy Clausen, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, Ryan Mallett, Colin Kaepernick, Ricky Stanzi, TJ Yates, Brandon Weeden, Russell Wilson, and Kirk Cousins. A lot of those guys didn't pan out, but Buffalo had absolutely no business passing on any of them. And most of the time, the Bills were drafting some borderline defensive back in lieu of a QB. They're ******* stupid and deserve to be bad.
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how does freaking kolb get a starting when tebow doesn't? such crap nfl...
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I like Kolb. He's a smart QB that you can win with, but he'll never stay healthy. This move doesn't make the Bills much better. Being in that division, you can't make incremental improvements and expect to compete.

I don't feel bad for the Bills at all. They've passed on a ton of QBs over the years when they NEEDED one. They deserve the lack of success they've had. They've also passed on offensive tackles when they needed those.

Since they drafted JP Losman, they've passed on Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman, Jimmy Clausen, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, Ryan Mallett, Colin Kaepernick, Ricky Stanzi, TJ Yates, Brandon Weeden, Russell Wilson, and Kirk Cousins. A lot of those guys didn't pan out, but Buffalo had absolutely no business passing on any of them. And most of the time, the Bills were drafting some borderline defensive back in lieu of a QB. They're ******* stupid and deserve to be bad.
1. Come on. You can't fault them because they didn't waste a pick on a ****** QB. That's ridiculous. Remove Leinart, Quinn, Kolb, Clausen, Locker, Ponder, Stanzi (a fifth rounder who sucks, how the **** did he get in there?), so that's 8/17 that shouldn't be included.

2. Any QB you draft in the 4th round or later is a developmental pick who you'd be happy if they turned into a good backup, can't count that. Bye to Yates and Cousins 10/17

3. Losman only had started a season and a half by the time of the Leinart/Cutler draft and he was actually decent in those games. Can't fault the Bills for giving him a little more time at that point. 11/17

4. Ryan Mallett hasn't done **** other than be on the Patriots. Brandon Weeden was considered a horrible pick by almost everyone and has yet to prove them wrong. 13/17

So you're left with 4 QBs that you have an argument for them being dumb to pass: Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman , Andy Dalton, and Russel Wilson. A lot weaker of a case then when you barf up a long list of names without thinking of if it makes sense or not
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In this case, does it mean: Just Kidding?

Fitz was horrible, and he should be charged with Grand Theft for what he stoke from the Bills.

He's an interception waiting to happen any time he throws the ball beyond 20 yards.
It means I don't care, because they both suck and it really doesn't matter. As it stands, aren't they now basically paying for both quarterbacks? I certainly wouldn't want to do that. I think people are getting way to excited about Kolb playing well for, what, 5 games last year?
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It means I don't care, because they both suck and it really doesn't matter. As it stands, aren't they now basically paying for both quarterbacks? I certainly wouldn't want to do that. I think people are getting way to excited about Kolb playing well for, what, 5 games last year?
Yeah, well JCut has a cannon but is a *****.

You brought this on yourself.
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how does freaking kolb get a starting when tebow doesn't? such crap nfl...
I really think that Tebow could have had a very nice career if he weren't bringing a three-ring circus along with him.
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Yeah, well JCut has a cannon but is a *****.

You brought this on yourself.
I don't know what that word is, but Jay Cutler is an awesome QB and a saint of a person. He is far too good to be mentioned in a thread about Kevin Kolb.

Fitzmagic played an amazing 5 games that led to his big contract, has a cool beard and went to Harvard. Kevin Kolb is fat and has a soul patch and is from Houston. In terms of crappy QB's, I'm not sure how this is a real discussion.
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The word was a female dog.

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you on Kolb, I'm just saying you brought that on yourself for piling it on the Bills by saying we are paying two ****** QB's. Kicking us while we are down why don't ya!
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I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you on Kolb, I'm just saying you brought that on yourself for piling it on the Bills by saying we are paying two ****** QB's. Kicking us while we are down why don't ya!
In my defense, I fully support paying one of those QB's.
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In my defense, I fully support paying one of those QB's.
Apology accepted.


It really comes down to the fact that Fitz wasn't going to take a paycut and we simply could not go through another season with him as QB or backup QB with that contract. It was a big cap hit in total but it helps that we could split it up between 2 years so the move had to be done.

As for Kolb, I do think he is better than Fitz. The Bills brass has already said no QB in this class appears to be the total package so signing him lets them avoid taking someone in the 1st rnd or maybe even the 2nd when they are really not in love with any of the prospects this season.

We can fill the other holes like OG/WR#2/OLB Pass Rusher.
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1. Come on. You can't fault them because they didn't waste a pick on a ****** QB. That's ridiculous. Remove Leinart, Quinn, Kolb, Clausen, Locker, Ponder, Stanzi (a fifth rounder who sucks, how the **** did he get in there?), so that's 8/17 that shouldn't be included.
I certainly fault them for not ******* trying. Those QBs didn't fail until long after they were drafted. And Locker, Kolb, and Ponder haven't even "failed". I listed QBs that had potential to be good starting QBs going into their respective drafts.

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Except, you know, the Bills never tried to develop a QB. They were happy with Fitzpatrick and JP Losman before him. I certainly count them NOT EVEN TRYING TO DRAFT SOMEONE and sticking with QBs that would be backups on any other team.

Chiefs fans complain that the team hasn't drafted a QB in the first round in 30 years, but the Bills just don't even draft QBs and they're consistently picking in the Top 12.

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Losman was bad. He had one season in which he wasn't completely awful. I'll give them a bit of credit for Trent Edwards, but they basically gave up after he got hurt.

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They had no business passing on Mallett three times. That was just mental retardation at its finest. They were in prime position in a draft that had 10 QBs with starting potential and came away with Levi ******* Brown. That's just ********. Weeden is better than what they've got.

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So you're left with 4 QBs that you have an argument for them being dumb to pass: Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman , Andy Dalton, and Russel Wilson. A lot weaker of a case then when you barf up a long list of names without thinking of if it makes sense or not
Besides being completely wrong and missing the point, way to leave Kaepernick out, who was a great fit for Chan Gailey's offense.
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In Losman's 2nd year of starting - he had a 3000 yd season with 19tds to like 13 or 14 picks. He had a cannon for an arm, and actually was a very hard worker in the film room.

We had to keep rolling with him - We drafted him to be the franchise QB and he performed initially.
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Stop all the crack smoking in this thread. Kolb is in no way better then Fitzpatrick. Fitz throws picks because he tries to do too much with what he's got. Kolb has all the tools you want and just can't read a defense, get rid of the ball on time or throw it where he wants to. Fitz is like half his size, gets roughed up because of his style and still has 45 starts the last 3 seasons to Kolb's 19. This was strictly about turning the page, money, and getting a back up QB.
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I like Kolb. He's a smart QB that you can win with, but he'll never stay healthy. This move doesn't make the Bills much better. Being in that division, you can't make incremental improvements and expect to compete.

I don't feel bad for the Bills at all. They've passed on a ton of QBs over the years when they NEEDED one. They deserve the lack of success they've had. They've also passed on offensive tackles when they needed those.

Since they drafted JP Losman, they've passed on Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman, Jimmy Clausen, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, Ryan Mallett, Colin Kaepernick, Ricky Stanzi, TJ Yates, Brandon Weeden, Russell Wilson, and Kirk Cousins. A lot of those guys didn't pan out, but Buffalo had absolutely no business passing on any of them. And most of the time, the Bills were drafting some borderline defensive back in lieu of a QB. They're ******* stupid and deserve to be bad.
I like how most of these guys you list came out before Losman had proven he was a bust, or before Trent Edwards' concussion robbed him of his mojo after he took over for the bust Losman.
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Except that Kolb played well and Arizona played well when he was under center, so that's not an excuse. The reason he got hurt was that he got ******* smoked when he was under center for Arizona, that offensive line was an absolute joke last year. It made Chicago's O-Line look like San Francisco's godtier line.
So why is it that he couldn't beat out John Skelton? That's some real tough QB competition there. I love when people make up a million excuses for below average QB's. You don't think there were issues with the Chiefs last year too? Cassell, just like Kolb, is fine if everything is perfect on the team from coaching down to personnel, but if it's not he's a terrible QB. You could put Brady Quinn behind a terrible offensive line and guess what? He still sucks.
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because according to Whis the system works. Kolb is no where near as bad as NFLDC pretends he is
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because according to Whis the system works. Kolb is no where near as bad as NFLDC pretends he is
So he gets benched in favor of John Skelton by Whis, and Arians cut him outright knowing they already had probably the worst QB situation in the league even with him. But yea, you're right, he's actually a really good QB because his on field play and actions by his coaches certainly prove that point
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This won't stop the Bills taking a QB with the #8th pick which they're almost certain to do.
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