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Old 04-02-2013, 09:12 AM    (permalink
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It's ok, you have Brandon Graham. You'll be alright. Stop crying about it.

You also got Connor Barwin. You'll be ok. Don't beat yourself up over it.
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BBD has an Eagles fan friend stopping by? LOL.

He does say the next ray lewis. Are you sure you don't want the next Ray Lewis on the team? Hahah
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Let's be serious though, if Teo really was the next Ray Lewis he would have killed off Lennay Kekua long before any of the catfish stuff came to the spotlight.
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It's laughable that you think you can make definitive assessments before any of these players have played more than a handful of snaps in the NFL.

Same goes for crowning players like Jason Pierre Paul as shoo-in Hall-of-Famers after one good season in the NFL.
Or like saying he's the next Ray Lewis and then insulting someone for making assessments before they play in the NFL?

It's fine if you want casual/fun conversations on here, but don't come to the Giants board and troll.
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Did Tynes ever sign with anyone?

He must be grossly overestimating his value on the market.
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Did Tynes ever sign with anyone?

He must be grossly overestimating his value on the market.
That or we overvalued him by keeping him all these years.
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A lot of that going around. Steve Smith signed with the Giants of the South. One year deal! Pay day for Smith! LOL. He should fire his agent for such a pathetic career move by leaving us.
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That or we overvalued him by keeping him all these years.
Man you really hate Tynes lol. I wanted him back. He's reliable. And his noodle leg gives us an excuse to go for it on the border instead of trying a low percentage field goal kick.
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Man you really hate Tynes lol. I wanted him back. He's reliable. And his noodle leg gives us an excuse to go for it on the border instead of trying a low percentage field goal kick.
He's reliable because Tom only puts him spots where he absolutely knows he can make it, except in Eagles game last year which drove me crazy. Everyone, including Coughlin, knew he'd miss that. There are better kickers out there. The rule change on kickoffs probably saved his job for a year or two.

Don't worry. I'm already scouting Sergio Ramos for the Giants for whenever he decides to retire from soccer.

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We didn't think Reese valued RB's high either and then bam 1st round RB last year. Anything can happen.
Eh, we knew Reese valued playmakers and was really high on CJ Spiller coming out, so I wasn't as surprised last year as I would be with a first round LB, but I'm down for Brown so if he ends up the BPA I'd be cool with it even if it would shock the **** out of me.
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He's reliable because Tom only puts him spots where he absolutely knows he can make it, except in Eagles game last year which drove me crazy. Everyone, including Coughlin, knew he'd miss that. There are better kickers out there. The rule change on kickoffs probably saved his job for a year or two.

Don't worry. I'm already scouting Sergio Ramos for the Giants for whenever he decides to retire from soccer.

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He's reliable because Tom only puts him spots where he absolutely knows he can make it, except in Eagles game last year which drove me crazy. Everyone, including Coughlin, knew he'd miss that. There are better kickers out there. The rule change on kickoffs probably saved his job for a year or two.

Don't worry. I'm already scouting Sergio Ramos for the Giants for whenever he decides to retire from soccer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj8j2buGyDk
Every coach tries to put their kicker's in a position to hit the FG. That's the point of having a good coach. We was still more automatic from inside the 45 than almost any other kicker the last 3 years though.
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Looks like we have a few more options in free agency

We have LB/DE Eric Norwood, RB Tim Hightower, DT Mike Patterson and WR Anthony Armstong.

None of these are spectacular, but outside of Norwood they have been productive and add experienced depth to compete with in training camp.
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Vacchiano: Which Giants Set to Make Most in 2014 (Cap)

1. QB Eli Manning ... $20,400,000
2. S Antrel Rolle ... $9,250,000
3. G Chris Snee ... $9,000,000
4. LT Will Beatty ... $7,400,000
5. C David Baas ... $7,225,000
6. LB Mathias Kiwanuka ... $7,050,000
7. DE Jason Pierre-Paul ... $2,961,000
8. P Steve Weatherford ... $2,700,000
9. CB Prince Amukamara ... $2,603,013
10. RB David Wilson ... $1,823,046
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Snee and Baas's contracts are absolutely ridiculous. Kiwi should have took a paycut or got cut too. Not worth 7 mill.

Snee making 9 mill is ridiculous though. Absolutely ridiculous. They didn't even ask him to take a pay cut.
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Snee and Baas's contracts are absolutely ridiculous. Kiwi should have took a paycut or got cut too. Not worth 7 mill.

Snee making 9 mill is ridiculous though. Absolutely ridiculous. They didn't even ask him to take a pay cut.
Gee, I wonder why....
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Didn't he restructure?
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Reese doesn't care if it's Coughlin's son in law. If they wanted him to do something they would ask.
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I think there is an option on Snee's contract after this season, I don't recall whether it is a player or team option.

Regardless 2014 is Snee's last year under contract, so we could cut him for significant savings if we wanted to.
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We should cut him now. 9 million for Chris Snee is absolutely ridiculous. That's the worst contract on our team. We've cut better players who made less or asked them to take pay cuts.

I know it won't happen bc it's Snee, but it should. Think about what we could have done with 9 million dollars of salary.
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There are a few guys on that list that need to adjust or get cut due to salary. China Doll, Snee , Kiwi, and Rolle.
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Kiwi already restructured as did Baas.
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that's not good. That makes it hard to cut them.So restructuring Baas was bad because now its hard to cut him. The next step is a pay cut or cut and take the cap hit. if that's not good we keep an average player who has a high salary.
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I think Baas has 2 years left and Kiwi is in his final year? Those contracts can come off the books after this year.

I don't know about Snee.
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