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Old 03-26-2013, 02:07 PM    (permalink
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I like the Anderson signing a lot. He gives us another capable starter. Scott is just a depth signing, he can play both guard and tackle, so he can at least be a decent backup.
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Matt Slauson is the newest signing. Should be one of our starters.
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Matt Slauson is the newest signing. Should be one of our starters.
I REALLY like the moves that Emery has made the past 5 weeks (including Urlacher) with exception of resigning Scott - I like the direction were headed.
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Now the bears need a LB to replace Urlacher
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I agree, I just hope that we do not reach. Ideally we trade down...hopefully this comes to fruition on draft day. My concern is the lack of elite players in the draft/decent QB prospects that may tempt another team to trade up.
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Kyle Long in the first round. Meh. It's ok. I don't think he's going to be a star lineman but I do think he'll be averagish for a long time. I really hate what we left on the board. Any of these guys would have been great:

Desmond Trufant
Xavier Rhodes
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DeAndre Hopkins
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I give our round one a C+. It's a better pick than last year, at least.
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I'm not crazy about most of the guys on your list either, but Long was a 2nd round guy. You don't draft average guards in the 1st round. Emery sucks.
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Long's ceiling is that of a good left tackle, so that's nice and all...I just don't think he's going to hit it. :/

Hopefully his father and brother keep a fire lit under his ass. I guess he must have interviewed really well?

Yeah, really not loving Phil Emery.
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Kromer must have had a lot of say in the pick. Nobody else on that staff has a better track record than him.

Also not a big fan of Emery though.
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Hate this pick. Phil Emery is worse than Jerry Angelo. At least Jerry pretended to take guys worthy of first round picks. I'm disgusted right now.
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For what it's worth Kiper had him ranked at 23, and Mayock had him at 29. With the run on offensive lineman he wasn't going to make to 50. I don't think he woul have made it out of the first round. Is it a sexy pick, most definitely not. But it's not an awful pick. He will be an immediate starter at a position of need. Are you guys forgetting that our offensive line has been hot garbage since forever?
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For what it's worth Kiper had him ranked at 23, and Mayock had him at 29. With the run on offensive lineman he wasn't going to make to 50. I don't think he woul have made it out of the first round. Is it a sexy pick, most definitely not. But it's not an awful pick. He will be an immediate starter at a position of need. Are you guys forgetting that our offensive line has been hot garbage since forever?
Yeah, but now we have three starting-caliber guards (assuming that Long is, in fact, starting caliber in year one). Only two can play. It wasn't a position of need anymore.
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Slauson, Long and who else? James Brown? Carimi? Slauson is the only proven commodity and he's on a one year deal. For once it looks like there will be talent and competition on the offense line and that's a good thing.

Looking at the other positions we believe were considered, guard was really the only spot where we would gain an immediate starter. Corner, Linebacker, Wide Receiver and Tight End all have starters penciled in and any additions would be role players or players for the future. With the way offensive line was falling it would have been slim pickings at 50 and beyond.

He was also 26 on Scout, Inc's top 32. Was it a little bit of a reach, yeah. But it's not as drastic as it's being made out to be.
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Slauson, Long and who else? James Brown? Carimi? Slauson is the only proven commodity and he's on a one year deal. For once it looks like there will be talent and competition on the offense line and that's a good thing.
Carimi. Carimi at guard was the highest graded Bears lineman last season. He was better than Bushrod was at tackle. He was better than Slauson, and Slauson is no slouch.

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Looking at the other positions we believe were considered, guard was really the only spot where we would gain an immediate starter. Corner, Linebacker, Wide Receiver and Tight End all have starters penciled in and any additions would be role players or players for the future. With the way offensive line was falling it would have been slim pickings at 50 and beyond.
At linebacker we have a guy who's never been good when asked to play in the middle and a SLB that had a historically bad year in 2012. At corner, we have two good corners on the last year of their contracts and no one behind them who even approaches what we can call "average"...and that's a position at which we often have three guys on the field at once. Why not get a top corner and work him in at the slot this season so that he can start when we lose one of our boundary corners to FA next offseason? Corner is a position at which a ton of guys need a year of part-time work before they're ready to go. We obviously need a slot receiver, as Earl Bennett is the invisible man and no one knows whether Alshon Jeffery is going to be anything at all. We have Brandon Marshall and nothing but question marks behind him. At DE, we have Peppers on the last year before he gets cut, Wootton with one year of being ok (and it's the last year of his contract), and McClellin who hasn't shown one bit of what you expect from a first round DE.

Our needs going into the draft were, in order:
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Just because there's a body on the roster doesn't mean we have a starter. At guard, we already had both positions filled with legitimate starters. At Corner and DE we were short one. At Wide Receiver and linebacker we were short two.
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Carimi is not a legitmate starter at guard. His best rated game came when he filled in out of desperation and was got worse in subsequent outings with time to prepare. He was eventually benched before returning out of desperation again. For once the Bears will have the option of getting the best five guys on the field and not settling for a patchwork configuration.

Like it or not Anderson and Williams are the starters at linebacker this year, Emery and company have said as much. And there is more talent at linebacker and corner that if we draft a guy in the second they can contribute and eventually start.

Defensive End is not a need, with Peppers, Wooton and McClellin a defensive end selected this year would have faced an uphill battle for playing time. I could have seen a tackle being the pick as insurance for Henry Melton but that's not how it panned out.

I'm not thrilled with the pick, but I don't think it's a terrible one. Cutler has been sacked more than QB in league since he came here and they are finally working proactively to make sure that isn't the case. Long came from an uptempo fast paced offense at Oregon and we've been lead to believe that is what Trestman plans on installing.

The draft isn't over either. While it wouldn't have been to trade down, nobody besides the Vikings and Pats trade was really setting the world on fire. Slot receivers can be had in the later rounds, and if he's on the board I wouldn't be surprised to Swope be the pick in the second.

Who knows though.
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When "not terrible" is the best thing you can say about your 1st round pick, two years in a row, you suck at your job. We spent a 1st round pick on a guard that has started a total of five games in college, mostly because he scored really well on an "athletic index score".

Please God bring back Angelo.
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Who would you rather have had at that pick, bearsfan?
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Who would you rather have had at that pick, bearsfan?
Ideally I'd have done almost anything to trade down, as that wasn't a good spot for us. But given that we stayed at 20 I think there were still a lot of guys that make more sense.

If we were going to go OL we could have taken Wafford or Menelik Watson. If we wanted a playmaker Eifert, Patterson, DeAndre Hopkins, or Keenan Allen were all there. Personally I would have loved the value of Shariff Floyd even if the need isn't great. At linebacker we could have taken Ogletree, Te'o, or Arthur Brown. Rhodes or Trufant in the secondary both made some sense too.

So that's 12 guys. Long would have been a great pick at 50, but at 20 it's just way too damn high. Even Long said he didn't expect to go that early.
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Ideally I'd have done almost anything to trade down, as that wasn't a good spot for us. But given that we stayed at 20 I think there were still a lot of guys that make more sense.

If we were going to go OL we could have taken Wafford or Menelik Watson. If we wanted a playmaker Eifert, Patterson, DeAndre Hopkins, or Keenan Allen were all there. Personally I would have loved the value of Shariff Floyd even if the need isn't great. At linebacker we could have taken Ogletree, Te'o, or Arthur Brown. Rhodes or Trufant in the secondary both made some sense too.

So that's 12 guys. Long would have been a great pick at 50, but at 20 it's just way too damn high. Even Long said he didn't expect to go that early.
Menelik Watson or Warford? That would have been 10 times worse.
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I can't get over the fact that Long has almost no experience actually playing college football. It seems absurd to me that they used a 1st rounder almost entirely based on an athletic projection for one of the least athletic positions in football.
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Pissed off at the pick. Not a whole lot of options on the board, but as mentioned I would have taken a lot of other guys over Long. Definitely thought he was a 2nd round pick...

I have been pleased with the offseason thus far with our moves (Bushrod a little pricey though), but this pick wasn't great at all.

I think Emery is trying to be too smart for his own good in finding "gems". McClellan, Trestman and now Long. Hopefully these guys pan out because I feel that we left a lot on the board.
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Fire Emery.

Bostic? wtf.

Don't know too much about him other than the players we left on the board. This screams that DE out of CMU we picked that one year. :(
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Bostic isn't good at all. Gets eaten up by blockers, has no instincts in pass coverage...always a step or two late. He's just bad. I figured him for a fifth rounder.

Phil Emery is ******* useless. We did KC such a huge favor when we hired him.

Draft is already an F grade.

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