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Old 04-04-2013, 03:17 PM    (permalink
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Josh Lentz has missed time because of injury but those numbers from his pro day are on a par with any receiver in this draft. He's pretty much the same athlete that Ryan Swope is without some of the notoriety. I'm surprised at how little buzz there is for some of these guys running in the 4.3s, like its easy to do.

Great numbers but where's the production?? Measurables are only half the equation. IF you didn't see his pro day, those numbers scream the next Terry Glenn.
But I doubt his game tape shows the same type of athlete.
I don't know how stable the Cyclones were at QB, but if Lenz really has deep speed, he'll get his shot.

Nice to see Kenny Tate is still on the NFL radar.
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Kenny Tate S UMD - (6-3 1/2 221lbs) 4.76 & 4.66 40, 33 Inch vert, 7.20 3 cone drill, 4.34 short shuttle, 15 bench press lifts
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Give him a shot - and he'll produce....at safety...
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Great numbers but where's the production?? Measurables are only half the equation. IF you didn't see his pro day, those numbers scream the next Terry Glenn.
But I doubt his game tape shows the same type of athlete.
I don't know how stable the Cyclones were at QB, but if Lenz really has deep speed, he'll get his shot.

Nice to see Kenny Tate is still on the NFL radar.
Missed a couple of games this past year but had some good production. 3 tds against TCU. Not as if ISU QBs have ever been anything special. Lentz looks like a late round sleeper.

There are diamonds in the rough out there teams just have to find them. i'd love to see Seattle bring someone like this in with that speed but Pete Carroll seems to have his vision of what an NFL player should look like so not holding expecting much.
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Great numbers but where's the production?? Measurables are only half the equation. IF you didn't see his pro day, those numbers scream the next Terry Glenn.
But I doubt his game tape shows the same type of athlete.
I don't know how stable the Cyclones were at QB, but if Lenz really has deep speed, he'll get his shot.

Nice to see Kenny Tate is still on the NFL radar.
I think his game speed matches up with his 40 time more so than someone like Ryan Swope, however he doesn't have the strength of Swope (despite his nice bench numbers) on the field and while he is quick doesn't seem to have good field vision, like he will make a guy miss only to bounce into a bigger number of defenders instead of cutting the other way. He seems to be one of those guys that constantly has some nagging injury to where he isn't 100 percent so I think that is his biggest knock. Last year it was a quad injury that kept him from playing that he kept reinjuring coming back too soon, and played a few games not at 100 percent. He didn't miss a ton of games but he was definitely not 100 percent healthy for a ton of games. If he can stay healthy I can see him being a good receiver at the next level.
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We need to step it up with updates in this thread.

From the Super Regional Combine Lawrence Okoye had a hell of a day:
Height: 6' 6"
Weight: 304
40 yard dash: 4.78, 4.88
Vertical: 35"
Broad Jump: 10' 5"

Since he has no previous experience in American football he's an interesting gamble. That kind of athleticism is pretty ridiculous though and I'd be willing to take a gamble on him in the 7th round.
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We need to step it up with updates in this thread.

From the Super Regional Combine Lawrence Okoye had a hell of a day:
Height: 6' 6"
Weight: 304
40 yard dash: 4.78, 4.88
Vertical: 35"
Broad Jump: 10' 5"

Since he has no previous experience in American football he's an interesting gamble. That kind of athleticism is pretty ridiculous though and I'd be willing to take a gamble on him in the 7th round.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1830855

Brock Lesnar through up very similar workout numbers and was coming from a similar situation with limited football experience and amounted to nothing - just some food for thought
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Eh, Lesnar was in his late 20's and was coming off of 4 years of wear and tear from 200+ days of bumping in pro wrestling. He was already close to the end of his athletic peak while this kid hasn't even touched his yet.
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Eh, Lesnar was in his late 20's and was coming off of 4 years of wear and tear from 200+ days of bumping in pro wrestling. He was already close to the end of his athletic peak while this kid hasn't even touched his yet.
That's true, and Okoye played rugby and was a track star instead of pretending to fight people.

Do I expect he'll be a star? No. But with his measurables he's got a high ceiling and I'd take a late round flyer on an athletic freak like him just because that kind of athletic potential is rare in the later rounds.
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I don't know why everyone is being so cautiously optimistic about a 21 year-old 6'6" rugby-playing Olympic athlete who weighs over three hundred pounds and ran a 4.7.
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I don't know why everyone is being so cautiously optimistic about a 21 year-old 6'6" rugby-playing Olympic athlete who weighs over three hundred pounds and ran a 4.7.
Forget Okoye, look at this mofo beside him.

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Crap he has to be like 6'9. Dat neck width.
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Crap he has to be like 6'9. Dat neck width.
Reportedly 6'10", 352 lbs.
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Brock Lesnar through up very similar workout numbers and was coming from a similar situation with limited football experience and amounted to nothing - just some food for thought
lesnar was also a 6-3 266 pound DT that was nearly 30 and couldnt move all to well because of his massive biceps and neck

Okoye is much more of an athlete than body builder like lesnar
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lesnar was also a 6-3 266 pound DT that was nearly 30 and couldnt move all to well because of his massive biceps and neck

Okoye is much more of an athlete than body builder like lesnar
That article stated Lesnar was 6'3 290 and put up similar athletic measurables
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That article stated Lesnar was 6'3 290 and put up similar athletic measurables
The article is wrong.
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I remember seeing coverage of Lesnar's workout with the Vikes but they didn't bite.
I think there were suspicions his performance numbers were 'chemically' enhanced. Also I think he was 27 at the time.
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clearly chemically enhanced lol...that and he has body builder muscles that are not very useful in playing football, hed be a liability to tear muscles with the way hed need to position himself and use his hands/move his arms as a DT
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NFL Network's Mike Mayock timed Cal WR Keenan Allen's forties at 4.71 and 4.75 during the prospect's pro day workout.

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well he has been compared to Boldin. The numbers are similar. Both were/are recovering from injuries upon running 4.7s too.
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well he has been compared to Boldin. The numbers are similar. Both were/are recovering from injuries upon running 4.7s too.
His long recovery time has to become concerning a bit. He hasn't played a game since October 27th so we're looking at five and a half months for an injury that usually takes no more than a month to recover from.
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Me and PF have been on this. He's not going to be a first-round pick.

He's a possession receiver in college, which usually isn't a good sign. I liked his 2011, but I doubt I'd use a pick on him in the 2nd round with so many other talented receivers.

Could his career arc be similar to Anquan Boldin's? Sure. But that's a pretty crazy story and Boldin's not your average player.
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well he has been compared to Boldin. The numbers are similar. Both were/are recovering from injuries upon running 4.7s too.
I don't know if that's the case. The showed film of this guy getting walked down several times. He looked plain slow.
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FWIW Allen claims he is not 100% still.

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Allen is finally scheduled to run Tuesday in his native Greensboro, 16 days before he's expected to be drafted in the first round. All 32 teams are expected to attend.

Allen said he probably was 85 percent recovered from his injury, which he "tweaked" before the February scouting combine, but that he'd be back at full strength in a few weeks.
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FWIW Allen claims he is not 100% still.
I think that second bit may be what he said at the combine, not before he ran today. Could be wrong, though.
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