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Old 04-08-2013, 08:48 PM    (permalink
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The reports that circulated that the Cowboys were "in talks" with RT Eric Winston appear to be a function of his agent building up more than what is happening. It appears that the two sides have "talked" but are not in any type of negotiations at this point. Several other reports say there is no interest and still others say there is mutual interest.

Main thing to remember, Winston's agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Extrapolate as you wish.
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The reports that circulated that the Cowboys were "in talks" with RT Eric Winston appear to be a function of his agent building up more than what is happening. It appears that the two sides have "talked" but are not in any type of negotiations at this point. Several other reports say there is no interest and still others say there is mutual interest.

Main thing to remember, Winston's agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Extrapolate as you wish.
Also, the longer he sits the cheaper he gets. I read that he is looking for a deal around 3 to 4 mil per year, if that number dips toward the lower part of his demands it could kindle some conversation.
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I guess it's another case of....

If it's too good to be true, it ain't true. FUUUUUuuuuuHHH!!!!
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If it's too good to be true, it ain't true. FUUUUUuuuuuHHH!!!!
winston could still be in play along smith and clabo, at this point no team is in a rush, i doubt any of the 3 tackles signs with a team before the draft

unless they draft a tackle i still think winston becomes a cowboy so long as doug free is a post june cut
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The Cowboys are reportedly asking RT Doug Free to take a pay cut so they can sign free agent Eric Winston.
It's an awkward situation for Free. After getting demoted from left tackle to right tackle to part-time player, he knows he can't be back with the Cowboys at his scheduled salary of $7M. But if he accepts the restructure, he'll almost certainly lose his starting job to Winston. The decision will likely come down to how much Free thinks he can garner on the open market. Based on the current climate for right tackles, we wouldn't suspect he'd get anything more than a weak one-year deal.
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So I'm curious, why would Free agree to this? I'm guessing because if he restructures he can save himself a roster spot past June 1st, as a back-up somewhere on the line. If he says no, he gets cut June 1st and likely may not get picked up anytime soon, or for anything more then the minimum.


Just seems weird for a guy to restructure so we can have room to sign his replacement. I get the feeling that even if he does restructure he'll still be making too much anyway, unless we have an under the table deal where we won't cut him come June.



But anyway, like someone just said I expect a lot of these tackles to still be available. Andre Smith, Clabo, Winston, nobody seems to be in a big hurry right now.
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Simple, if he restructures and sees that his contract is worth more than what he'd get in the open market, then he'll do it.

Restructuring typically involves a good amount of guaranteed money and a bonus of some sort. It's easy money for him.
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I think Free has to do it. No one is gonna pay him more.

My issue with that is that he'll still be making excellent starters money.

What if the Cowboys got him to redo his deal.. and by doing so, would make his dead money a lot less. THEN made him a June 1st cut? Super uncool move, but excellent GMing!!! lol.
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Can't imagine Free's agent allowing that to happen...
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Can't imagine Free's agent allowing that to happen...
It wouldn't happen with him knowing or expecting that. It'd just have to be a real prick thing for Jerry to do. The agent would probably want sureties in place though. I know what you're saying.
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It wouldn't happen with him knowing or expecting that. It'd just have to be a real prick thing for Jerry to do. The agent would probably want sureties in place though. I know what you're saying.
Restructured amount would probably have to be guaranteed for this season. Although, I'm not a contract guy. No idea how dead money and all this BS works.
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If Free restructures I don't even mind him being on the roster...whatsoever.
Despite his play as a starter, we know what he's CAPABLE(Doug Free Ver.2010) of....and he's played both tackle positions. How many linemen did we burn through last year due to injury? Just knowing he can backup both starters, and fight it out in camp with Parnell, and him being WILLING to do that would mean a lot.


T-Smith/Parnell
G-Bernadeu/Arkin/Draft Pick
C-Costa/Draft Pick/Killa Kowalski
G-Livings/Draft Pick
T-Winston/Free


Huge upgrade from last year, in both starters and depth...especially if they use a 1st or 2nd round on OL.
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It sounds to me like a straight cut, not restructure. Either take what we want to offer or get cut June 1st and get scrap money from teams that having topped their cap.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...s-fell-through

Winston's talks with the Chargers have fallen apart.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-frustrating/

All he wants is something in the $3-4M dollar range. I don't see why we haven't done this yet. Cut somebody!!!!

“In the $3-4 million range is something that I think is more than fair for a starter who has played pretty well throughout his career,” Winston said.
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If Free restructures I don't even mind him being on the roster...whatsoever.
Despite his play as a starter, we know what he's CAPABLE(Doug Free Ver.2010) of....and he's played both tackle positions. How many linemen did we burn through last year due to injury? Just knowing he can backup both starters, and fight it out in camp with Parnell, and him being WILLING to do that would mean a lot.


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G-Bernadeu/Arkin/Draft Pick
C-Costa/Draft Pick/Killa Kowalski
G-Livings/Draft Pick
T-Winston/Free


Huge upgrade from last year, in both starters and depth...especially if they use a 1st or 2nd round on OL.
Thank You! I've said this time and again. The guy had a rough year or so. He's a much better back than u will find out there right now. He can play both tackles and knows what's going on.

Too expensive to cut anyway. Hope he can restructure...oh how quickly we forget...
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Thank You! I've said this time and again. The guy had a rough year or so. He's a much better back than u will find out there right now. He can play both tackles and knows what's going on.

Too expensive to cut anyway. Hope he can restructure...oh how quickly we forget...
Problem is guys don't really give up that much when they restructure. I don't even want Free at half the cost. He's no where near the player he was 2 years ago. I don't need to invest that much in him as a back up. Parnell is perfectly fine at that.

Still no news of Winston being a Cowboy makes me a sad panda.
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...for the record, I have been one who hasn't been in panic about the DL.

It's a nice to have, but *shrugs*... I'm fine not addressing DT early in the draft. I've always remained strong that I think we need OL and S first.

That's why Sly scares the heck out of me. Richardson... I am a fan of. But even then... I think I'd rather go with Cyprien (over Vacarro btw). Who we have at S right now sucks sucks sucks compared to who we have at DT.
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...for the record, I have been one who hasn't been in panic about the DL.

It's a nice to have, but *shrugs*... I'm fine not addressing DT early in the draft. I've always remained strong that I think we need OL and S first.

That's why Sly scares the heck out of me. Richardson... I am a fan of. But even then... I think I'd rather go with Cyprien (over Vacarro btw). Who we have at S right now sucks sucks sucks compared to who we have at DT.
Personally I'm sitting with my ideal scenario would be:

1) Cooper
2) Richardson (too much value IMHO)
3) Trade Down
4) Vaccaro

After that it gets murky for me. I like Cyprien and Sly a lot though for the next names there.
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...for the record, I have been one who hasn't been in panic about the DL.

It's a nice to have, but *shrugs*... I'm fine not addressing DT early in the draft. I've always remained strong that I think we need OL and S first.

That's why Sly scares the heck out of me. Richardson... I am a fan of. But even then... I think I'd rather go with Cyprien (over Vacarro btw). Who we have at S right now sucks sucks sucks compared to who we have at DT.
I agree on the DT needs. I see the need for some D line help, but I think the bigger priorities of OL and safety first. I am such a big Lissemore fan that I think he'll have a really good year. Time will tell with Hatcher and the transition, but DT for me would be more about depth and youth while OL and S are huge needs IMO. Since I didn't watch too much college last year I'm just sitting back listening to y'all's preferences. I don't think anyone in the first would piss me off unless it's a kicker or QB. lol
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I agree, I think we need NFL talent at Safety and Right Guard, which we don't currently have.

That said, if Richardson is around and none of the 5 OLineman or Vaccaro are, I like him over FLuker or Elam/Cyprien or whoever we would take there.

When you get down to Williams, the debate becomes an interesting one.
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I hear so many good things about Richardson. Can't say I've seen him play, but if he's the quick, athletic specimen that I keep hearing he is I can see why they'd go that route. Having a sick DL rotation is a huge benefit.
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...for the record, I have been one who hasn't been in panic about the DL.

It's a nice to have, but *shrugs*... I'm fine not addressing DT early in the draft. I've always remained strong that I think we need OL and S first.

That's why Sly scares the heck out of me. Richardson... I am a fan of. But even then... I think I'd rather go with Cyprien (over Vacarro btw). Who we have at S right now sucks sucks sucks compared to who we have at DT.
I don't want to reach in round 1, but I believe we have to get some depth. I'm fairly confident in Hatcher contributing, but Ratliff not so much. It's also hard to say about Lissemore and Crawford.
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I think that everyone is forgetting Hatcher is a FA after this season, if he blows up no way we can afford to resign him to a resonable contract. I have no issues addressing 3 tech early so we dont have to deal with that headache. I actually like Sly and Short more at NT in our scheme but I think they have enough pass rush skill to moonlight at 3tech. Richardson would be the ideal fit but I would much rather have Cooper if he slides down to #18.

I am actually starting to like the idea of moving down to the late first if the guards go early. Between 25 and 40 looks like a sweet spot to pick up the second tier of players at DT/OG and there is a possibility that we might be able to secure Cyprien and get additional value through moving down depending how the board falls.
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I think that everyone is forgetting Hatcher is a FA after this season, if he blows up no way we can afford to resign him to a resonable contract. I have no issues addressing 3 tech early so we dont have to deal with that headache. I actually like Sly and Short more at NT in our scheme but I think they have enough pass rush skill to moonlight at 3tech. Richardson would be the ideal fit but I would much rather have Cooper if he slides down to #18.

I am actually starting to like the idea of moving down to the late first if the guards go early. Between 25 and 40 looks like a sweet spot to pick up the second tier of players at DT/OG and there is a possibility that we might be able to secure Cyprien and get additional value through moving down depending how the board falls.
Way too early to say what will happen to Hatcher. If he produces and we can afford him, then great. If we can't afford him, then DT becomes a 1st round need next season. DT is a position that guys can step in right away anyways. So to sit here today and worry about what might be a problem and ignore what we know IS a problem... I don't really agree with that.

Additionally, if we draft Richardson/Sly... then that may interfere with Hatcher having a "blow up" type season just because the playing time will be messed with.

I can understand the concern. But not as a 1st round concern. Take a 3rd round guy like we did with Tyrone Crawford. We had a clue that we might have a need there, but it wasn't immediate. Now we have a guy in place for a "just in case" scenario. That's what I prefer. If you know you might have a looming concern, address it later in the draft. But we need to fix our known Needs first and foremost.
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I still say OL is #1. However, I started scouting the DT just cause you guys were talking them up. The only one I loved was Sheldon Richardson. I am good with him, but still think it would wrong.

I have to say I don't see what everyone else sees in the other DT's. I wasn't impressed.
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