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Old 04-07-2013, 03:53 PM    (permalink
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Cleveland trades their first round pick to Buffalo for their first fourth and fifth

St. Louis trades their first round pick to Minnesota for there first (number 25) third and a fourth

Green Bay gives there one to Arizona for a two four & five

Houston gives up their first round pick to San Francisco for a second round pick and a third

First Round

1 Kansas City - Luke Joekel OT Texas A&M
2 Jacksonville - Dee Milliner CB Alabama
3 Oakland - Sharrif Floyd DT Florida
4 Philadelphia - Dion Jordan DE Oregon
5 Detroit - Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan
6 Buffalo (CLE) - Gino Smith QB West Virgina
7 Arizona - Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
8 Cleveland (BUF) - Chance Warmack OG Alabama
9 New York Jets - Ezikiel Ansah DE Brigham Young
10 Tennessee - Jonathan Cooper OG North Carolina
11 San Diego - Star Lotulelei DT Utah
12 Miami - Xaiver Rhodes CB Florida State
13 Tampa Bay - Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
14 Carolina - Tavon Austin WR West Virgina
15 New Orleans - Barkiveous Mingo DE LSU
16 Minnesota (STL) - Cordarrelle Patterson WR Tennessee
17 Pittsburgh - Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia
18 Dallas - Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
19 New York Giants - Dalonte Jones DE UCLA
20 Chicago - D.J. Fluker OT Alabama
21 Cincinnati - Eddie Lacy HB Alabama
22 St. Louis (Wash) - Bjoern Werner DE Florida State
23 St. Louis (Minn) - Alec Ogletree MLB Georgia
24 Indianapolis - Alex Okafor DE Texas
25 Minnesota (SEA) - Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
26 Arizona (GB) - Matt Barkley QB USC
27 San Francisco (HOU) - Desmond Trufant CB Washington
28 Denver - Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M
29 New England - DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson
30 Atlanta - Cornellius Carradine DE Florida State
31 San Francisco - Keenan Allen WR California
32 Baltimore - Kevin Minter MLB LSU

Second Round

33 Jacksonville - Sam Montgomory DE LSU
34 Houston (SNF(KC)) - Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech
35 Philadelphia - Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi State
36 Detroit - Arthur Brown MLB Kansas State
37 Cincinnati (OAK) - Jonathan Cyprien S Florida International
38 Green Bay (ARI) - Kawann Short DT Purdue
39 New York Jets - Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
40 Tennessee - Jamar Taylor CB Boise State
41 Buffalo - Justin Pugh OG Syracuse
42 Miami - Robert Woods WR USC
43 Tampa Bay - David Amerson CB North Carolina State
44 Carolina - Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State
45 San Diego - Larry Warford OG Kentucky
46 St. Louis - Matt Elam S Florida
47 Dallas - Jesse Williams DT Alabama
48 Pittsburgh - Terrance Williams WR Baylor
49 New York Giants - Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
50 Chicago - Manti Te'o MLB Notre Dame
51 Washington - Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State
52 Minnesota - Darius Slay CB Mississippi State
53 Cincinnati - Menelik Watson OT Florida State
54 Miami (Ind) - Terron Armstrong OT Arkansas Pinebluff
55 Green Bay - Kyle Long OT Oregon
56 Seattle - Zac Ertz TE Stanford
57 Houston - Eric Reid S LSU
58 Denver - Vance McDonald TE Rice
59 New England - John Jenkins DT Georgia
60 Atlanta - Kasheem Greene OLB Rutgars
61 San Francisco - Margus Hunt DE Southern Methodist
62 Baltimore - Phillip Thomas S Fresno State

Third Round

63 Kansas City - Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
64 Jacksonville - EJ Manuel QB Florida State
65 Detroit - Robert Alford CB Southeastern Louisiana
66 Oakland - Sio Moore OLB UCONN
67 Philadelphia - David Bakhtiari OT Colorado
68 Cleveland - Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
69 Arizona - Trevardo Williams OLB UCONN
70 Tennessee - Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State
71 Buffalo - Jamie Collins OLB Southern Mississippi
72 New York Jets - Giovani Bernard HB North Carolina
73 Tampa Bay - Jordan Milles OT Louisiana Tech
74 San Francisco (CAR) - - Shamarko Thomas S Syracuse
75 New Orleans - Logan Ryan CB Rutgars
76 San Diego - Aaron Dobson WR Marshall
77 Miami - Travis Fredrick C Wisconsin
78 St. Louis - Da'Rick Rodgers WR Tennessee Tech
79 Pittsburgh - Johnathan Franklin HB UCLA
80 Dallas - Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State
81 New York Giants - Barrett Jones C Alabama
82 Miami (CHI) - Dwayne Gratz CB UCONN
83 St. Louis (Minn) - Tyrann Mathue CB LSU
84 Cincinnati - Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
85 Washington - David Quessenberry OT San Jose State
86 Indianapolis - Marquise Goodwin WR Texas
87 Seattle - Brandon Williams DT Missouri Southern State
88 Green Bay - Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State
89 Houston - John Simon DE Ohio State
90 Denver - Bacarri Rambo S Georgia
91 New England - Brian Schwenke C California
92 Atlanta - Jordan Reed TE Florida
93 Houston (SNF) - Brian Winters OG Kent State
94 Baltimore - Akeem Spence DT Illinois
95 Houston - Xaiver Nixon OT Florida
96 Kansas City - TJ McDonald S USC
97 Tennessee - Corey Lemonier DE Auburn

Round Four

98 Jacksonville - Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee
99 Kansas City - Jon Bostic MLB Florida
100 Oakland - Stedman Bailey WR West Virgina
101 Philadelphia - BW Webb CB William & Mary
102 Minnesota (DET) - Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas
103 Green Bay (ARI) - Kiko Alonso MLB Oregon
104 Cleveland - Tyler Bray QB Tennessee
105 Cleveland (BUF) - Leon McFadden CB San Diego State
106 New York Jets - Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati
107 Tennessee - Zavier Gooden OLB Missouri
108 Carolina - Oday Aboushi OT Virginia
109 New Orleans - Tavarrres King WR Georgia
110 San Diego - Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB UCONN
111 Miami - Joseph Randle HB Oklahoma State
112 Tampa Bay - Brandon McGee CB Miami (FLA)
113 St. Louis - Andre Ellington HB Clemson
114 Dallas - Monte Ball HB Wisconsin
115 Pittsburgh - Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
116 New York Giants - DeVonte Holloman OLB South Carolina
117 Chicago - Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M
118 Cincinnati - Khaled Holmes C USC
119 Washington - Kenny Stills WR Oklahoma
120 St. Louis (Minn) - Landry Jones QB Oklahoma
121 Indianapolis - DJ Swearinger S South Carolina
122 Green Bay - Shawn Williams S Georgia
123 Seattle - Matt Scott QB Arizona
124 Houston - Nico Johnson MLB Alabama
125 Denver - Jordan Hill DT Penn State
126 Tampa Bay (NE) - Malliciah Goodman DE Clemson
127 Atlanta - Will Davis CB Utah State
128 San Francisco - Stepfan Taylor HB Stanford
129 Baltimore - Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State
130 Baltimore - Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas
131 San Francisco - Jelani Jenkins OLB Florida
132 Detroit - Lavar Edwards DE LSU
133 Atlanta - Chris Faulk OT LSU

Round Five

134 Kansas City - Cornelius Washington DE Georgia
135 Jacksonville - Chris Harper WR Kansas State
136 Philadelphia - Montori Hughes DT Tennessee Martin
137 Detroit - J.J. Wilcox S Georgia Southern
138 Seattle (OAK) - J.C. Tretter OG Cornell
139 Cleveland - Dion Simms TE Michigan State
140 Green Bay (ARI) - Christine Michael HB Texas A&M
141 New York Jets - Josh Evans S Florida
142 Tennessee - Tharold Simon CB LSU
143 Cleveland (BUF) - Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
144 New Orleans - Everette Dawkins DT Florida State
145 San Diego - Brennan Williams OT North Carolina
146 Miami - Kieth Pough OLB Howard
147 Tampa Bay - Kevin Reddick MLB North Carolina
148 Carolina - Robert Lester S Alabama
149 St. Louis - Gerald Hodges OLB Penn State
150 Pittsburgh - Terry Hawthorne CB Illinois
151 Dallas - Conner Vernon WR Duke
152 New York Giants - Levon Bell HB Michigan State
153 Chicago - Nick Kasa TE Colorado
154 Washington - William Gholston DE Michigan State
155 Minnesota - Lerentee McCray OLB Florida
156 Cincinnati - Ty Powell OLB Harding
157 San Francisco (IND) - Lonnie Pryor FB Florida State
158 Seattle - Mike Gillislee HB Florida
159 Green Bay - Nickell Robey CB USC
160 Houston - Josh Boyce WR Texas Christian
161 Denver - Marcus Lattimore HB South Carolina
162 Washington (NE) - A.J. Klien MLB Iowa State
163 Atlanta - Bennie Logan DT LSU
164 Cleveland (SNF) - Correy Fuller WR Virginia Tech
165 Baltimore - Hugh Thorton OG Illinois
166 Miami - Tony Jefferson S Oklahoma
167 Green Bay - Ricky Wagner OT Wisconsin
168 Baltimore - Josh Johnson CB Purdue
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:09 PM    (permalink
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You picked all 3 positions of need for Buffalo which is really good, but I don't see us trading up for Geno.

We have quite a few holes, and then add in the fact that we only 6 picks to begin with heading into the draft. We were not aggressive in FA, so I doubt we are Ok with just getting 4 picks out of this draft.
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some great picks for SF
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And Oakland leaves the draft without improving their roster once again.
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I don't see the Bengals taking a RB in the 1st they have already said they are happy with BJGE and they are looking for a compliment back. Swope also does not make sense they have 4 slot guys already in Saun, Hawkins, Whalen and Sanzenbacher. If they go with a WR they need one that can line up on the outside. I can't see them taking a Center either they like both Cook and Robinson and will let them battle it out for the starting center.
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While I like the guys chosen for Cleveland, I think their list of needs is different. It's roughly - CB, FS, TE, OG, than take your pick after that between ILB, OLB, QB, WR.
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Like mingo in the first round for the saints, not really nuts about any of the other picks.

Logan Ryan in the third is bad value imo and with guys like brandon williams and barrett jones i think you have guys who are both better value and both fill a bigger need (as i think Jones can both play a vital depth role or even a starter at a tackle spot down the road)

In the fourth i just dont see the appeal of Tavarres King as a prospect. I flat out dont think he is a good football player at all and i wouldnt waste a single draftpick on him so that doesnt help. Also really not nuts about picking a receiver unless he is a true deep thread in the later rounds but that means the size and the speed.

In the fifth you have the saints taking a DT whom i really dont see working well in a 34 scheme at all. Too light to play nose and not stout enough, long enough and disciplined enough to play end in the 34, even in a 1 gap scheme.
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Short doesn't fit the Packers base defense very well.
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i would actually be cool with that for cle
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Really dislike the trade for the Vikings. They have too many needs to give up two extra picks in order to move up for Patterson when they could easily stay put and take Keenan Allen at 22 or 25. Won't get in to the rest of it as the picks would change so much with having those other two picks back.

Also, in the trade you say the Vikings gave up #25 but then gave the Rams #23 in the mock.
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Every pick for the Jets is solid except Nassib. No thanks on him in the 2nd. He likely wouldn't even beat out Sanchez for a starting job anyway. They'll like take a flier at QB on day 3 or just wait to get Bridgewater or someone in 2014.
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Other than the obligatory Cooper/Warmack pick, interesting Titans mock. Some needs are meet and value seems to be there. I like Lemonier's pass rush potential. Gooden would be a nice backup and can maybe be in for nickle or even some 3-4 fronts. Probably wouldn't go with another CB in the 5th though.
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Good solid draft for SF! Only thing I would put is a wide out round 4/5 and maybe a TE there too.
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Give Miami Gholston in the 5th round over Pough and it's a really solid Miami draft. Nice work.
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This might be the best draft I've seen for Detroit, though I'd prefer a different 4th rounder. Still, Fisher,Brown,Alford and Wilcox would be an awesome haul. More athleticism in the secondary, a stud MLB of the future and a LT to protect Stafford and keep Reiff at G or RT. Fantastic.
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18 Dallas - Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
Good pick.

47 Dallas - Jesse Williams DT Alabama
Good value but look for Dallas to target an offensive lineman here if we don't in the first. Our offensive line is atrocious and we cannot neglect it. Armstead and Long were both brought in for visits and both would be upgrades considering our current roster.

80 Dallas - Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State
Dallas just locked up Romo long-term and has Orton as their veteran backup. If Dallas is looking at QBs, and looking at their visits it clearly is not a priority, it would be a project QB late in the draft. The solitary pre-draft visit for a QB was Padron from Eastern Washington whom would be a priority UDFA. I can't imagine Dallas passing on Barrett Jones here.

114 Dallas - Monte Ball HB Wisconsin
[b]Garrett has been quoted for wanting a "jitterbug" and Monte Ball does not fit that mold. Sean Porter and Jordan Hill were both pre-draft visitors and solid options here.

151 Dallas - Conner Vernon WR Duke
Not a bad pick although given the board I would say Le'Von Bell would be a lock if he's available here and Dallas hasn't selected a RB. Otherwise Bennie Logan has been scouted heavily by Dallas. Met with him at his pro-day as well as bringing him in for a pre-draft visit.
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18) Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
47) Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
80) Barrett Jones, C/G, Alabama
114) Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M
151) Le'Von Bell, RB, Michigan State
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