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Old 04-10-2013, 04:50 PM    (permalink
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Who in this draft would you consider the best 3-down back? I could see the Packers taking Bell in the first due to his ability to do it all. Plus, there is untouched potential with him
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Johnathan Franklin is the top back and top 3 down back in my rankings.
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^ This. Franklin all day.
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Marcus Lattimore

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I would say it is a toss up between Giovani Bernard and Johnathan Franklin.
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I would say it is a toss up between Giovani Bernard and Johnathan Franklin.
I'm not sure Bernard will be able to pick up the blitz right away. I don't have proof, but his body @ the moment and they really didn't ask him to do that @ UNC.
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Giovani Bernard. He can make plays downfield, not just catch checkdowns.

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Bernard is a good pass catcher in the flats and downfield but i cannot imagine him being an effective blocker
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I would rather have a 3-down RB that can make plays regardless of blocking skill than one who can block, but not make plays.
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I would rather have a 3-down RB that can make plays regardless of blocking skill than one who can block, but not make plays.
If a running back can't block then he's not going to see much time on the field during 3rd downs. A running back can have the world's best hands and make plays, but if can't protect the investment at quarterback then coaches aren't gonna care what else he can do (in respect to 3 down backs).
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If a running back can't block then he's not going to see much time on the field during 3rd downs. A running back can have the world's best hands and make plays, but if can't protect the investment at quarterback then coaches aren't gonna care what else he can do (in respect to 3 down backs).
I agree, many RB slide in the draft because they simply aren't good pass blockers, the NFL is a passing league especially on 3rd down and it is definitely a requirement for the position.
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I agree, many RB slide in the draft because they simply aren't good pass blockers, the NFL is a passing league especially on 3rd down and it is definitely a requirement for the position.
Teams pass on 1st and 2nd down more than you think.
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I will always tout Christine Michael
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Hard to put too much weight into how a RB blocks in college, even the best ones are pretty bad until about their 3rd year in the NFL. Its just a completely different beast in the NFL in terms of protection schemes and skill level. A lot of teams will scheme around this early on with young guys through check releases.

If you can find a RB that is at least willing you can teach pretty much everything else. That said, I don't think you can find anyone that will have much more of an impact than Eddie Lacey. Barely any mileage on him and has shown an ability to stick his nose in there.
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Teams pass on 1st and 2nd down more than you think.
But a good pass catching RB will be utilized on those downs at times as a pass catcher, whereas on 3rd down the chains will require a further yardage investment. A good blocking RB may not even get on the field on 1st and 2nd downs for that same reason (see Wilson, Hillman, etc last year).
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I guess, to me, 3 down back means most complete back.

If you look at running ability, pass catching ability and pass blocking ability. I think Le'Veon Bell is the best, most complete back in the class.

With that said, other guys probably have Bell beat in the running department, and could develop into better WRs and adequate blockers.

I like the potential of Joseph Randle to be a complete back in the NFL, he reminds me of Fred Jackson.
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I think Bernard will be fine in pass protection. This article only looks at one play, but it shows that he generally has a grasp on what he's doing:

http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2012/07/28...ovani-bernard/

I'm more concerned about his ability to translate as more than a 3rd down back in the NFL.
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I'm not sure that there is a 3-down back in this draft.
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Taylor from Stanford. Solid runner, outstanding hands and a very good blocker. Used to pro offensive set.
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Montee Ball hands down. Best pure runner in the draft, a nice reciever and a solid pass blocker. Maybe not the most explosive guy, but that is overrated in a RB. Bell is not far away either. Stefan Taylor will prolly turn out to be the best 3rddown back and backup RB reminds me a lot of Kenny Watson.
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Homer plug;

If Lattimore fully recovers, easily him for me. He literally did everything for us, run, catch and block.
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