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Old 04-17-2013, 04:47 PM    (permalink
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I'd feel like an idiot watching a show for an hour then feeling the need to have it explained to me.

No ones making anyone watch anything, doesn't mean people can't say they're dumb shows.
If Talking Bad has directors and writers from the show it will be a nice watch. If it is celebrity fans of the show I think it will be really dumb.

I have no problem with this being a show, I just won't be watching.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:49 PM    (permalink
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It can be a show all it wants. And I hope it makes a ton of money. Convince AMC to invest in making great shows because its worth it for an hour of good tv to make money for two hours of programming.

But I think talking shows suck and I won't be watching.
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I'm really curious as to who they're going to get to host it. The Walking Dead is kind of a ****** show, but Chris Hardwick would make The Talking Dead unwatchable even if TWD was on the same level as GoT/Mad Men/Breaking Bad.
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Or maybe they just really enjoy the show and are interested in hearing different opinions on it?
Theres this new thing called the internet. Its great, they should try it.
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Theres this new thing called the internet. Its great, they should try it.
But having another outlet to hear opinions hurts what exactly? I seriously don't understand.
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But having another outlet to hear opinions hurts what exactly? I seriously don't understand.
I'm just being a dick haha. I really don't care one way or another if breaking bad has a talk show. I don't like the idea of "talk" shows but I am rather indifferent towards this. It just seems unnecessary to me.
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You could dissect Breaking Bad for hours on end. I'm not saying it'd be great TV (especially if AMC wants ratings ahead of genuine insight), but there's sense in having a discussion show afterward.
I love the show. Love it. But lets not get carried away with the symbolism and dimensions of characters. It is what it is, and it is a great plot. But there is nothing deep about this show with the exception of Walt's inner struggles of what is good/bad anymore.

Dissecting it for hours? Agree to disagree on that one.
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I think junior is the deepest character. Not even close. He has evil buried inside him.
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I think junior is the deepest character. Not even close. He has evil buried inside him.
Is the evil side of him named Flynn?
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Hope you're ready for Flynnsanity this season.
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No one makes you people watch this stuff ...

I support it because I support anything that helps AMC grow and attract viewers of any sort. The network is responsible for some of the best content on TV.
AMC is run by empty suits who have no clue what they're doing. Look at the laundry list of people they've pissed off. I'm done with AMC once Breaking Bad wraps in the fall. I have no desire to support a channel that can't get it's **** together and treats their talent like crap.
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AMC also is responsible for Mad Men though which is the second best show on television. I mean that is possibly the two greatest television shows of all time there.
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AMC also is responsible for Mad Men though which is the second best show on television. I mean that is possibly the two greatest television shows of all time there.
And they've managed to royally annoy the creators of both Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
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And they've managed to royally annoy the creators of both Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
Fair enough. Fortunately neither show has suffered because of it. I mean I guess Breaking bad could be effected but we will only know once the show has ended.
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I love Breaking Bad to death, but thank god I will never have to worry about Mad Men having a stupid ******* discussion show after it.
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I love the show. Love it. But lets not get carried away with the symbolism and dimensions of characters. It is what it is, and it is a great plot. But there is nothing deep about this show with the exception of Walt's inner struggles of what is good/bad anymore.

Dissecting it for hours? Agree to disagree on that one.
Dude.......stop while your ahead. Almost every shot of this show could be analyzed with how much detail Gilligan puts in every scene.
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Dude.......stop while your ahead. Almost every shot of this show could be analyzed with how much detail Gilligan puts in every scene.
So technically.....Stop while I'm behind is what your are saying.

If you dont mind - Can you name 1 glaring example that went over my head.
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The entire Fly episode.
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The entire Fly episode.
I ******* love that episode. I have spent hours with friends talking about the meaning of everything in The Fly.
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Breaking Bad has as much symbolism and foreshadowing as any show on TV right now. It's not even a case of people thinking they're seeing things that aren't really there because Giligan has never made a secret of it.
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So technically.....Stop while I'm behind is what your are saying.

If you dont mind - Can you name 1 glaring example that went over my head.
How much do you know about cinematography?
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I'm a complete cinematography n00b and even i can see and appreciate the stuff BB throws out. And my inexperience with that kind of stuff is why i enjoy reading these threads. Completely indifferent about the talk show since i won't be watching it, though if there's writers on it, it may be interesting.
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Breaking Bad has as much symbolism and foreshadowing as any show on TV right now. It's not even a case of people thinking they're seeing things that aren't really there because Giligan has never made a secret of it.
Foreshadowing is one thing.

Hidden Symbolism behind every single scene is a little much imo.

And yes - I enjoyed the Fly episode.

EDIT: (NOT DIRECTED AT YO, JUST IN GENERAL) F it, I'll go into some more detail since some of you want to jump all over people. As for Gilligan says this and Gilligan has said this is special meaning for future reference. First things first. Gilligan has always maintained that everything falls back on the concept of good and evil, and what morals people lean on when things are going good or going bad. That is what everything comes down to - Simple as that. That's why we all knew Walt had really lost his **** when we found out he poisoned the boy on purpose to get Jessie back on his side vs Gus. There is blatant hidden signs for you to think about aka Walt Whitman, Pink Bear etc. And then you get the answers later as the season goes on as long as you remember certain parts that continuously throw in your face.

Do I understand cinematography at a high level? Hell no. I'll miss little things. But to say every single scene or even every single episode has a hidden meaning is ******* nuts.

Then again, I still enjoy different points of views on BB and the morals that are being questioned.
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I love the show. Love it. But lets not get carried away with the symbolism and dimensions of characters. It is what it is, and it is a great plot. But there is nothing deep about this show with the exception of Walt's inner struggles of what is good/bad anymore.

Dissecting it for hours? Agree to disagree on that one.

I actually don't entirely disagree with your premise. The show is filled with some subtle/some unsubtle foreshadowing through symbolism. The thing people can "dissect for hours" is 'does this shot/symbol/imagery/line mean X event will happen in the future'. Discussing future plot events is kind of surface material and the fact that those plot events are often linked to some form of symbolism still doesn't necessarily make the content as deep or metaphorical as some people like to think it is. Uncovering 'the what' is more the focus than 'the why' because by now the why (intentions) is pretty much right out on the table.

By no means do I think it's a shallow show but I can understand why you think it's more just an action/plot driven show. I think you're a little extreme in oversimplifying it to an extent and I do think there is a enough substance every week to fuel a discussion program.
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