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Old 04-21-2013, 07:21 AM    (permalink
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1. Kansas City :: Luke Joeckel : OT : Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville :: Geno Smith : QB : West Virginia
3. Oakland :: Dion Jordan : OLB : Oregon
4. Philadelphia :: Lane Johnson : OT : Oklahoma
5. Detroit :: Eric Fisher : OT : Central Michigan
6. Cleveland :: Dee Milliner : CB : Alabama
7. Arizona :: Barkevious Mingo : OLB : Louisiana State
8. Buffalo :: Jarvis Jones : OLB : Georgia
9. New York Jets :: Ezekiel Ansah : DE : Brigham Young
10. Tennessee :: Sharrif Floyd : DT : Florida
11. San Diego :: Xavier Rhodes : CB : Florida State
12. Miami :: Tank Carradine : DE : Florida State
13. New York Jets (f/TB) :: Kenny Vaccaro : S : Texas
14. Carolina :: Star Lotulelei : DT : Utah
15. New Orleans :: Bjoern Werner : DE : Florida State
16. St. Louis :: Tavon Austin : WR : West Virginia
17. Pittsburgh :: Cordarrelle Patterson : WR : Tennessee
18. Dallas :: Chance Warmack : OG : Alabama
19. New York Giants :: DJ Fluker : OT : Alabama
20. Chicago :: Jonathan Cooper : OG : North Carolina
21. Cincinnati :: Eric Reid : S : Louisiana State
22. St. Louis (f/WSH) :: Sheldon Richardson : DT : Missouri
23. Minnesota :: Sylvester Williams : DT : North Carolina
24. Indianapolis :: Margus Hunt : DE : Southern Methodist
25. Minnesota (f/SEA) :: Jamar Taylor : CB : Boise State
26. Green Bay :: Justin Pugh : OT : Syracuse
27. Houston :: Tyler Eifert : TE : Notre Dame
28. Denver :: Manti Te’o : LB : Notre Dame
29. New England :: Desmond Trufant : CB : Washington
30. Atlanta :: DJ Hayden : CB : Houston
31. San Francisco :: Johnathan Cyprien : S : Florida International
32. Baltimore :: Arthur Brown : ILB : Kansas State
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1. Kansas City :: Luke Joeckel : OT : Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville :: Geno Smith : QB : West Virginia
3. Oakland :: Dion Jordan : OLB : Oregon
26. Green Bay :: Justin Pugh : OT : Syracuse
27. Houston :: Tyler Eifert : TE : Notre Dame
28. Denver :: Arthur Brown : ILB : Kansas State
2. Poor Jaguar fans. Another bust 1st Rd QB, setting their franchise back another half-decade.

1. Poor Vidae. Give him Fisher... no Djokovic. I mean no Joke. Joeckel.

You love Pugh, but you know I want Arthur Brown there. I don't care that we have Hawk already and maybe Bishop coming back.... I feel Brown will upgrade our defense big time.... so much better than Hawk.
I also believe Eifert is the real deal and would not mind seeing him taken, even though our defense is what needs the immediate, significant upgrade.
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not a fan of vaccaro at all, therefore i hate the pick. not saying there would be anything wrong with drafting a safety with a mid first round grade but i dont like vaccaro nearly enough to warrant that sort of grade.

But then again, im just lost as to why people rate vaccaro as high as they do, i really dont see it
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Well, looks like someone just earned some positive rep for NOT giving us Xavier Rhodes.
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I'd bet good money that Watson won't be Baltimore's first pick.
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1. Poor Vidae. Give him Fisher... no Djokovic. I mean no Joke. Joeckel.
Mocking Eric Fisher to the Chiefs just because vidae likes Fisher over Joeckel is just silly. Joeckel is the most likely pick for the Chiefs and this forum is the only place I've heard any support for the Chiefs taking Fisher over him. He needs to deal.
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not a fan of vaccaro at all, therefore i hate the pick. not saying there would be anything wrong with drafting a safety with a mid first round grade but i dont like vaccaro nearly enough to warrant that sort of grade.

But then again, im just lost as to why people rate vaccaro as high as they do, i really dont see it
Not getting the Vaccaro love around here. If he played at Washington he'd be a likely 3rd rounder.
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Give the Jets Tavon Austin at 13 and that's a heck of a 1st round.
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Jarvis Jones would make me take off my pants in celebration. I love his game, and the thought of what element he would add to our defense that already has a stud d-line.
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I need to update my mock with the Revis trade...

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You love Pugh, but you know I want Arthur Brown there. I don't care that we have Hawk already and maybe Bishop coming back.... I feel Brown will upgrade our defense big time.... so much better than Hawk.
I also believe Eifert is the real deal and would not mind seeing him taken, even though our defense is what needs the immediate, significant upgrade.
Arthur Brown is simply not a realistic option regardless if you want him or not. Where would he play? Right now we have three guys making a good deal of money competing for those spots. I'd love to add a player like him, but it's just not in the cards.

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I'd bet good money that Watson won't be Baltimore's first pick.
Who's Baltimore's starting left tackle right now?

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Give the Jets Tavon Austin at 13 and that's a heck of a 1st round.
With Kerley's emergence last season, I don't see the Jets going after Austin.
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Who's Baltimore's starting left tackle right now?
Doesn't matter, Ozzie doesn't draft based solely on need nor does Watson fit the profile of his first picks. He's not going to take a project like Watson that high.

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Solid Sf mock. But I like Elam more .
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Doesn't matter, Ozzie doesn't draft based solely on need nor does Watson fit the profile of his first picks. He's not going to take a project like Watson that high.
Watson is widely regarded as a first round pick so if he fell to 32 it'd be a surprise and it's not like he'd be picking solely on need
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Watson is widely regarded as a first round pick so if he fell to 32 it'd be a surprise and it's not like he'd be picking solely on need
I wasn't really talking about value, more about the second part of my post.

2012 - Upshaw
2011 - Smith
2010 - Kindle
2009 - Oher
2008 - Flacco
2007 - Grubbs
2006 - Ngata
2005 - Clayton
2004 - Edwards (pick 51)
2003 - Suggs
2002 - Reed

Notice a trend? It's not a coincidence either. The other night Jeremiah was on NFLN talking about his time with the Ravens and he said Ozzie had a saying (or something) like he wants to hit doubles with his first picks and not swing for home runs. To me Watson would definitely fall in the home run type of pick. Personally I wouldn't mind Watson as I think he has a lot of potential but I don't think it's likely to happen at all.
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Could deal with taking Austin at 14, but personally I'd rather have any of the next three players off the board.
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Man, PF, I love your work but I hate the Saints pick. I think Vaccaro is highly overrated and that the Saints have other pressing needs than a safety who's a clone of someone they already have - Malcom Jenkins
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I wasn't really talking about value, more about the second part of my post.

2012 - Upshaw
2011 - Smith
2010 - Kindle
2009 - Oher
2008 - Flacco
2007 - Grubbs
2006 - Ngata
2005 - Clayton
2004 - Edwards (pick 51)
2003 - Suggs
2002 - Reed

Notice a trend? It's not a coincidence either. The other night Jeremiah was on NFLN talking about his time with the Ravens and he said Ozzie had a saying (or something) like he wants to hit doubles with his first picks and not swing for home runs.
He has plenty of big swings there and has connected for some HR's for sure.
Sergio is the only real whiff I see there really......
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He has plenty of big swings there and has connected for some HR's for sure.
Sergio is the only real whiff I see there really......
Flacco is about the only big swing I see in there. Everybody was a proven bona fide talent that was ready to play right away. That's what I'm getting at. I know Flacco started right from the start but at the time it seemed like that was more because Troy Smith had some kind of sickness and I think Boller was hurt. Clayton was probably a whiff too. At least there was an excuse why Kindle didn't pan out.
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9. New York Jets :: Ezekiel Ansah : DE : Brigham Young
13. New York Jets (f/TB) :: Kenny Vaccaro : S : Texas

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Good Bengals pick. I don't personally like Reid, but I bet the Bengals do.
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I can dig Hayden in the first.
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