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How is the best FS in football (by a mile) the most overrated?
Earl Thomas is the real deal.

But excuse me?????????? Look what Byrd does including last season with a #1 CB that was a rookie, god knows what on the other side of him each week, and George Wilson at SS.

By a mile....you better retract that right now BBD!
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Earl Thomas is the real deal.

But excuse me??????????
It's true. No FS in the league can even sniff his range. Nobody plays the post better than Thomas, by a mile.

He's not a FS who's gonna cover TEs in man and he's not a box safety, but that's not his job. He plays the post and he does it better than anyone, including Byrd.

Byrd is good, but he doesn't have Thomas' range. Thomas is the true key to that secondary. Their CBs are very good but they are somewhat overrated. They can't play nearly as aggressive as they do if they didn't have Earl behind them.

I was actually thinking about making a thread on Seattle's secondary bc there's a lot of misconceptions about them.

But long story short, Earl is the ****. Hands down the best FS in football.
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Byrd and Weddle, namely.
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BBD......


Apparently you have not heard.....that....Byrd is the Word.

I'll leave it that......



I disagree on the range part. I think you are selling Byrd short big time. At the same time, I do like Thomas a lot so I'm not going to dog on his game either.
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I like Byrd a lot. Ok so maybe I'm being harsh when I say Earl by a mile, but Earl really is the best FS in football.
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Everybody in the secondary has now been claimed overrated by someone.

No. 1 pass D in the league with a weak pass rush in 2012.

lol I'll take it.
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I will say this - Earl Thomas was the first Texas DB that actually was what they said he was coming out.......
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No. 1 pass D in the league with a weak pass rush in 2012.

lol I'll take it.
I don't think your safeties are overrated at all. Your CBs are very good, but I think people don't realize how much safety help they get.

And how Earl is a ******* boss back there who cleans up a lot behind them.

Seattle runs more zone and 2 deep shells than people realize as well.

Dude, you know I've been saying all offseason Seattle has the best defense in football. Doesn't mean that some players can't start getting the overrated label.
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njx, did you talk bad on a McCourty?

That's an infraction.
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Chris Long has restructured his Contract. Saves the Rams 4.5 million.
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FS? Goldson still my top ***** doe.
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Why? Did they need the money to sign rookies or are they preparing for an acquisition?
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They needed the cap space.
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I don't think your safeties are overrated at all. Your CBs are very good, but I think people don't realize how much safety help they get.

And how Earl is a ******* boss back there who cleans up a lot behind them.

Seattle runs more zone and 2 deep shells than people realize as well.

Dude, you know I've been saying all offseason Seattle has the best defense in football. Doesn't mean that some players can't start getting the overrated label.
This is spot on. Earl lets those corners really get nasty on the LOS. Without him they would give up way more big plays. Its very rare they get burned because of how good Earl is.

I wouldn't call them overrated. Those corners are 2 of the best when it comes to pressing, but they have a great luxury behind them.
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meh, a qbr against a s doesn't mean a lot to me. the responsibilities just don't lend to that kind of analysis. i don't think he sucks, but i don't think he's quite as good as pats fans want to think he is. i get it, we haven't had a good cover safety in like 30 years. mike adams looks pretty decent back there at this point.

i think he'll get better. he certainly can't get much worse than he was at cb at the end.



you should tell them to stop sucking in the nfl and i'll stop talking bad on them!
we? were you not a Oakland fan?

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What ever happened with that Colts trade Irsay kept tweeting about?
I'm still waiting on the Pats making a move for Revis trade.



Oh :-/
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Oh :-/
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I know it'd be hard to pick a hawk, but Goldson can't hold Thomas' jock.
I wouldn't go that far. Well, at least last season. Goldson played very well. A single ball didn't go over his head other than in Atlanta.
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You really don't know right from left do you?

Go back to the 9er forum, Dan.
Hmmmm, I suggest you look at where Browner is which is the far right and to HIS right is the most overrated player in the Seahawks secondary. You should learn how to read and comprehend what others say.
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Hmmmm, I suggest you look at where Browner is which is the far right and to HIS right is the most overrated player in the Seahawks secondary. You should learn how to read and comprehend what others say.
You go from left to right like they are standing in the picture and then start talking from their view to talk **** about Sherman. Just a very odd way of going about it...but like I said, just go back to the 9er forum Dan.
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I will say this - Earl Thomas was the first Texas DB that actually was what they said he was coming out.......
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ehhhhhhhhh....He is an NFL starter no doubt for most of his career but would you say he was what he was supposed to be??? I mean he was the #5 overall pick.
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