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Old 04-28-2013, 01:53 AM    (permalink
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.

Silas Redd and Lache Seastrunk would have been 1st rounders if they had declared this year. I expect them to be 1st rounders next year.
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.

Silas Redd and Lache Seastrunk would have been 1st rounders if they had declared this year. I expect them to be 1st rounders next year.
Silas Redd would have been a first rounder? Where's this coming from? I don't even think he would've went on day 2...

Lache Seastrunk is definitely a potential first rounder though, but I doubt he would have been if he declared this year. Maybe 2nd though considering the run on RBs that went in the 2nd.
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No Ka'deem Carey?
I really like Ka'Deem Carey a lot. Definitely a player to watch as I think he's a potential 1st-2nd rounder I loved watching him.
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He just got arrested but Jeremy Hill from LSU, and Lache Seastrunk should be in the conversation at RB.

Kevin Hogan from Stanford deserves to be in the conversation at QB as well. Although I doubt he comes out next year after only a season and a half starting, but he could be a guy that challenges Bridgewater for that #1 spot.
Considerably too early to talk about Hogan. He was scrappy and was a clear upgrade to Nunes, but he isnt there yet. His delivery needs work too. He is going to win some games but he needs work as a prospect.

Also Shaw is never leaving; screw you all.
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Considerably too early to talk about Hogan. He was scrappy and was a clear upgrade to Nunes, but he isnt there yet. His delivery needs work too. He is going to win some games but he needs work as a prospect.

Also Shaw is never leaving; screw you all.
Lol he's the 2014 Jets HC don't you know? =)
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Silas Redd would have been a first rounder? Where's this coming from? I don't even think he would've went on day 2...

Lache Seastrunk is definitely a potential first rounder though, but I doubt he would have been if he declared this year. Maybe 2nd though considering the run on RBs that went in the 2nd.
You're saying Silas Redd is a 4th rounder at best? And you believe Carey is better than Redd? I rank Redd and Bishop Sankey over Carey.
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As per usual, around 65% of these guys will drop like a rock come next post season and 35% will come from outside this group to become top draftees. Happens every year.
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if falling of in the second half of the season scared you off about tuitt, this was due to a injury (sports hernia). this might be a red flag in itself but purely based on play tuitt has to be a first rounder right?
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if falling of in the second half of the season scared you off about tuitt, this was due to a injury (sports hernia). this might be a red flag in itself but purely based on play tuitt has to be a first rounder right?
Sports hernias are not big red flags medically today.
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.

Silas Redd and Lache Seastrunk would have been 1st rounders if they had declared this year. I expect them to be 1st rounders next year.
this post oozes weirdness to me. whilst i agree with you on archer the rest is just full of bs. Logan thomas is basically the same guy as EJ manuel but with an even better arm. both are just not good qbs (yet) but have all the tools in the world, therefore saying he isnt a first rounder is premature.

DAT is basically a carbon copy of tavon austin and therefore has every chance in the world to be a first rounder when all is said and done.

Redd on the other hand being a first rounder is a joke. He wasnt even a good running bakc last year and arguably also not the best back on his own team. I honestly think hell struggle to get drafted anywhere before the back end of day 3.

Seastrunk might maybe sneak into the end of rd 1 but that feels like a stretch and stating he wouldve been a first rounder like its a fact is a huge stretch.
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.
I agree with that, but if Dri Archer rushes for over 1400 yards and has over 500 receiving again how could he not be picked in the 1st round? And Thomas, I am not a huge fan but again it is based on tendency off of this year and what happens in the league, and if he can show he could be a slot receiver or not, which is still up in the air. And yeah Logan Thomas could be total trash, but he has the size and could put it together this year and also might not.


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Silas Redd would have been a first rounder? Where's this coming from? I don't even think he would've went on day 2...
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I thought of it, as a senior he is accomplished but not sure he has the talent to be picked that high, will really tell what he does this year. If he plays well with less talent around him and performs maybe he could be a late 2nd or 3rd rounder but that is a stretch with his abilities.

Lache Seastrunk is definitely a potential first rounder though, but I doubt he would have been if he declared this year. Maybe 2nd though considering the run on RBs that went in the 2nd.
Possible Seastrunk could make a run at being a 1st round pick, but he did bring a ton of hype to himself, see if he can put his play where his mouth is.
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Yeah the running backs there possibly as juniors is flat out insane. And just looking at the underclassmen there are a lot of offensive weapons but still yet to show a lot of defensive back or linebacker talent in that class. Then guys that did not come out early in 2014 could develop into solid players.

So just in terms of underclassmen, 2015 it will be interesting. Really interesting to see if those running backs come out where will they go and if they can continue such success on the field or not.

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Oh yeah! Thanks I must have took him off the list when I thought it was a sure thing he could come out early, I will make that adjustment, thanks for bringing it to my attention, that kid is a baller and arguably a top 20 pick.
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.

Silas Redd and Lache Seastrunk would have been 1st rounders if they had declared this year. I expect them to be 1st rounders next year.

Blasphemy. The Black Mamba is the running back version of Tavon Austin. They're basically the same friggin' player, although I think Thomas has the chance to be even better.

Not a first rounder?
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.

Silas Redd and Lache Seastrunk would have been 1st rounders if they had declared this year. I expect them to be 1st rounders next year.

Blasphemy. The Black Mamba is the running back version of Tavon Austin. They're basically the same friggin' player, although I think Thomas has the chance to be even better.

Not a first rounder?
This is all going off of Tavon Austin, he was picked that high I feel because he showed similar ability to Percy Harvin, the ability to be a running back, return man and slot receiver or deep receiver and be rather tough as a runner to bring down. Much less the Rams were filling a void they had when they lost a similar player.

Thomas is good but look at Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps, everyone talked about them in college football and now look at them in the NFL. Still early but both have done nothing, and Thomas like I said originally has to show he can be a slot receiver because he is not as physically tough as Austin is and is not as good of a route runner so I doubt he could be a change of pace as a running back like the Vikings used to do with Harvin. Dangerous yes but not as tough or physical as some other small receiver all purpose guys are.

Demps and Rainey are not doing great yet I feel because neither one could be a slot receiver and both are not physical enough to run the ball consistently

But for sure, Thomas has a chance to be in the 1st round if he keeps getting better and proving he can play as a slot receiver and not a running back type.
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This is all going off of Tavon Austin, he was picked that high I feel because he showed similar ability to Percy Harvin, the ability to be a running back, return man and slot receiver or deep receiver and be rather tough as a runner to bring down. Much less the Rams were filling a void they had when they lost a similar player.

Thomas is good but look at Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps, everyone talked about them in college football and now look at them in the NFL. Still early but both have done nothing, and Thomas like I said originally has to show he can be a slot receiver because he is not as physically tough as Austin is and is not as good of a route runner so I doubt he could be a change of pace as a running back like the Vikings used to do with Harvin. Dangerous yes but not as tough or physical as some other small receiver all purpose guys are.

Demps and Rainey are not doing great yet I feel because neither one could be a slot receiver and both are not physical enough to run the ball consistently

But for sure, Thomas has a chance to be in the 1st round if he keeps getting better and proving he can play as a slot receiver and not a running back type.
Comparing De'Anthony to Demps & Rainey?

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