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Old 04-29-2013, 04:42 PM    (permalink
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Been saying it for a year and I agree. He'll be #1 all year and into the 2014 draft.
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I'll go with Marcus Mariota and will admit it's early in the process. Mariota is basically Sam Bradford coming out, with 4.5 speed.
Ehhhh...I just don't see it.
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Bridgewater is the #1 prospect and it's not even close. I don't have anyone else is in the first round at the moment.

Boyd is a worse version of Geno Smith as a passer who actually uses his speed.
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Saw an article on nfl.com today saying Manziel has a "below-average" arm. I've actually been fairly impressed with his arm. He maintains accuracy while throwing from a variety of angles, has good intermediate zip and can get it deep. Definitely think he has a better arm than Fales. Tear me apart though, maybe I'm just in love with his running ability and trying to see what I want to in his throwing.
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Boyd is a worse version of Geno Smith as a passer who actually uses his speed.
What? You mean how he's more elusive and senses pressure twice as well? He strikes me more as like a 4.70 guy with good agility. I think he uses the speed he does have a lot more effectively than Geno. He is also much better at improvising and keeping his eyes downfield, and he's good at putting the ball where his receivers can make a play on it. He also anticipates breaks in routes and throws the ball to where his receiver is going to be.
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Yeah, Logan Thomas is fairly terrible.
Which means McShay will be in love with him
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Saw an article on nfl.com today saying Manziel has a "below-average" arm. I've actually been fairly impressed with his arm. He maintains accuracy while throwing from a variety of angles, has good intermediate zip and can get it deep. Definitely think he has a better arm than Fales. Tear me apart though, maybe I'm just in love with his running ability and trying to see what I want to in his throwing.
I don't see Manziel having the arm to be a really good quarterback in the NFL. I don't like to do projections a ton, but his game might translate to be a Jeff Garcia type quarterback.
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What? You mean how he's more elusive and senses pressure twice as well? He strikes me more as like a 4.70 guy with good agility. I think he uses the speed he does have a lot more effectively than Geno. He is also much better at improvising and keeping his eyes downfield, and he's good at putting the ball where his receivers can make a play on it. He also anticipates breaks in routes and throws the ball to where his receiver is going to be.
Boyd is Matt Scott 2.0
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1. Teddy Bridgewater 2. Tajh Boyd 3. AJ McCarron 4. Aaron Murray 5. Blake Bortles

Overrated: Logan Thomas, Derek Carr, David Fales
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I'm going to list potential 2014 QB prospects who will fight for the #1 spot come next year.

Order varies for the moment. I will officially update this after the underclassmen deadline.

1. Teddy Bridgewater
2. A.J. McCarron
3. Tajh Boyd
4. Aaron Murray
5. Jeff Driskel

Honorable mention
  • Johnny Manziel Texas A&M
  • Derek Carr Fresno State
  • David Fales San Jose State
  • Logan Thomas Virginia Tech
  • Braxton Miller Ohio State
  • Stephen Morris Miami (FL)
None of the SEC quarterbacks belong on the list. A.J. McCarron is a good college quarterback, but his physical tools don't translate well to the NFL.
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your def right on that. I am a HUGE gator fan, but Driskel has shown nothing so far to be considered a top QB. Sure, he has the physical traits, but he is not accurate and has terrible pocket awareness. Unless he blows up and becomes good all of a sudden, as of now, if he declared this upcoming year he would be a late round developmental QB
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So just pure speculation right now. Say you are the Raiders. The combo of Matt Flynn, Terrell Pryor , and Tyler Wilson lead them to the #1 pick. They are staring at Jadeveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater. Who do they take?
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So just pure speculation right now. Say you are the Raiders. The combo of Matt Flynn, Terrell Pryor , and Tyler Wilson lead them to the #1 pick. They are staying at Jadeveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater. Who do they take?
I think Wilson is the future for Oakland so I'd say they go with Clowney.
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Clowney over Bridgewater for Oakland. They have a solid vet and developmental QB that they took this year, enough to win them a couple games while you continue to build.
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Clowney over Bridgewater for Oakland. They have a solid vet and developmental QB that they took this year, enough to win them a couple games while you continue to build.
Matt Flynn still hasn't been given a chance to be a starter. He threw 6 touchdowns against Detroit in the last week of the 2011 regular season. He has ability.
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I think Boyd is currently the top prospect. He's basically EJ Manuel but more consistent.
I take it you have never seen teddy play?
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I don't think Bridgewater is above and beyond the best QB prospect in this draft.
No problem with him being rated the top guy, but Tajh Boyd was really incredible last season.

I'll admit there are few complete games I've seen Bridgewater play, who makes a 'wow' throw more than once, where he shows off both his arm and accuracy.
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Man there is a serious Boyd lovefest on this board.


I get it....Kind of...but what the...
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Unless somebody has a fabulous last season, this crop may be worse than this year's.
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He is an excellent, if not elite COLLEGE QB. But at the end of the day his arm isn't stellar, he plays in an offense that does him literally zero favors in preparing for the NFL, and if he didn't have that already against him he is at most 6' tall, probably closer to 5'11 (certainly not the 6'1 Clemson lists him at). I know people want to compare him to Russell Wilson, but the BIG difference is Wilson played in a Pro Style offense his entire career between NC State and Wisconsin.
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He is an excellent, if not elite COLLEGE QB. But at the end of the day his arm isn't stellar, he plays in an offense that does him literally zero favors in preparing for the NFL, and if he didn't have that already against him he is at most 6' tall, probably closer to 5'11 (certainly not the 6'1 Clemson lists him at). I know people want to compare him to Russell Wilson, but the BIG difference is Wilson played in a Pro Style offense his entire career between NC State and Wisconsin.
Tajh Boyd at one time was listed at 6'2, so I'd bank he's at least 6'1. We'll know for sure this time next year.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:43 AM    (permalink
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I swear to baby jesus if I have to go another preseason reading about Logan Thomas talk. That should have ended quickly last year. He's not good. Actually awful. He's a homless man's Cam Newton. I really don't think he's anything more than a 5th based solely on measurables and the dreaded 'flashes of potential'.
More like a dead man's Newton.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:46 AM    (permalink
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Bridgewater is the #1 prospect and it's not even close. I don't have anyone else is in the first round at the moment.

Boyd is a worse version of Geno Smith as a passer who actually uses his speed.
Boyd is a savy, tough, play making QB. Clearly behind Bridgewater, though. Another 757 product, by the way, Phoebus High.
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Kaepernick is this years pat white. Thin, gimmick offense and doesn't possess an nfl arm. The ncaa constantly regurgitates clones of past players and amazingly enough, tricks some people into thinking they're better than their cloned half. Kaepernick was a complete waste of a senior bowl qb spot. A better qb will come from the east/west shrine or whatever they're calling it now...count on it

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So just pure speculation right now. Say you are the Raiders. The combo of Matt Flynn, Terrell Pryor , and Tyler Wilson lead them to the #1 pick. They are staring at Jadeveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater. Who do they take?
Trade for Mallet, draft Clowney.
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