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Old 04-08-2013, 04:27 AM    (permalink
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Tyrod is a decent back up.
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Tyrod is alright as a back up. There are much worse back ups.
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Tyrod is alright as a back up. There are much worse back ups.
Like Matt Leinart and Brady Quinn last year.
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Russell canceled his pro day

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...sit-with-teams
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Instead, Russel has decided to go to Golden Corral and get the all you can eat steak and seafood buffet.
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I can understand if teams would rather have individual workouts for Russell. Russell is the king of scripted workouts like Pro Days. It's the reason he was #1 overall.

If you have your own coaches working him out, you get more into the intricacies of what he can and cannot do and you get him on his heels.

Good tactic.

Also, interesting spin on the possibility it's because no one would show up. I could see that as the case as well.
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Instead, Russel has decided to go to Golden Corral and get the all you can eat steak and seafood buffet.
All you can eat surf and turf? Hell yeah!

But Russell turned his nose up at it since it wasn't cajun style
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Russell's down to his combine weight of 265 and reportedly drawing "significant interest." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...s-nfl-interest
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This is the weight he should play at. If he can drop another 10 that's even better.

But beyond that, he needs to get his footwork and body mechanics in order. He could along it deep, but he was all over the place on all his passes. Couldn't hit a single RB screen, swing pass and quick slant.
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This is the weight he should play at. If he can drop another 10 that's even better.

But beyond that, he needs to get his footwork and body mechanics in order. He could along it deep, but he was all over the place on all his passes. Couldn't hit a single RB screen, swing pass and quick slant.
Except when doughboy played the Broncos, he would all of a sudden look like a pro QB when he played us.
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After Josh Portis getting cut, I could see the Seahawks bringing in Russell to compete with Jerrod Johnson for the third string QB job. Tom Cable is the offensive line coach in Seattle and him and Russell weren't best friends during their time together in Oakland, so that might be a problem.

Tennessee is a team that probably has the worst collection of QBs in the league and adding Russell couldn't hurt.

Other teams I could are Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, and Carolina.
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Nowhere, he's not a competent QB. 300lbs or 250 it doesn't change the fact that he sucked for a myriad of other reasons besides being fat and lazy. Sitting on his ass for the past 3 years probably diminished his physical tools as well.
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If I was a GM, I'd invite him to a workout. He's made an effort to get into shape and Oakland was a terrible situation for any rookie in Davis' last years.
You cannot teach size or arm strength and he has both of those in spades. The rest can be determined in a workout to see if he is worth signing.
A good GM or HC is always willing to give a prospect a second chance if there are signs he is making an effort, he is, so I'd certainly take a look because the upside is so high.
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After Josh Portis getting cut, I could see the Seahawks bringing in Russell to compete with Jerrod Johnson for the third string QB job. Tom Cable is the offensive line coach in Seattle and him and Russell weren't best friends during their time together in Oakland, so that might be a problem.

Tennessee is a team that probably has the worst collection of QBs in the league and adding Russell couldn't hurt
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Other teams I could are Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, and Carolina.
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This is the weight he should play at. If he can drop another 10 that's even better.

But beyond that, he needs to get his footwork and body mechanics in order. He could along it deep, but he was all over the place on all his passes. Couldn't hit a single RB screen, swing pass and quick slant.
This is the biggest thing, he had such sloppy footwork and mechanics. I think he was just too confident in his arm that he didn't care to work on those things at the time. He often overthrew screen passes, dump offs and such because he'd throw off balance and just just possessed horrible footwork.

There was a time at the end of 2008 that it looked like he was turning into a decent starting QB, that changed in 2009 as he was horrible.

If he can work on the things like footwork, pocket movement and reading defenses he still has a shot in the league. He's said he's fine playing backup to an established veteran (and prefers to do so). To me, this is either a move from the agent or it shows that he actually wants to get better and learn the game.

Here's a short list of teams I could see being interested, or a good fit.

Arizona - He could learn behind Palmer, Arian has quietly established himself as a QB friendly coach. Russell possesses the big arm that Arians likes and could sit behind Palmer, and likely Stanton as the teams 3rd QB.

Atlanta - Ryan is already established, they run a pretty vertical offense and he'd compete for a backup job.

Saints - State where he's somewhat loved for his college days, and would have no chance at people even thinking he should play until Drew Brees gets injured or retires. He possesses a big arm for the Saints vertical offense and NOBODY can overthrow Jimmy Graham, can they?

There's several more, but I thought those were 3 of the better opportunities.

Again, not saying he'd start or even be guaranteed a job. But there's little harm in bringing him in. If he shows a lack of work ethic, or acts like he's too good to battle for a backup job / roster spot, cut him. If he shows that he doesn't want to learn, doesn't want to work, or if he looks at you funny, cut him.
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Jacksonville and Cleveland?
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Saints, Jacksonville or Arizona seem like ideal situations for Russell.

If Jamarcus really has turned his head around, sitting behind Drew Brees until he retires could be perfect.
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To me (without thinking about it too much), the places that seem like ideal fits (for different reasons) would be Arizona, New Orleans, Cleveland, Houston, Denver.
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I would much rather give Vince Young a second chance before Jamarcus Russell.
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Just throwing it out there but: Pittsburgh.
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I think he's worth a shot if he shows enough in camp to sit on the bench. I'm not sure why so many people are against this, he's not getting any guaranteed money anymore, he won't start anywhere, why does he not deserve a shot? He's not the first, nor will he be the last guy who got paid, got lazy, and didn't give a ****.


Sure he sucked, but so did Mike Williams early on, so did Aaron Curry, so did Vernon Gholston and Aaron Maybin when they were drafted so why would these guys deserve the shot to make another team but he can't? 2 years sitting in a strong environment(one that would be completely opposite of Oakland) could do him some good. But supposedly he wouldn't mind playing in Canada so maybe starting and getting experience there would be just as good.
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I've watched some of his videos and been keeping tabs on this just a bit, and I think he genuinely wants to play and develop himself. I've got to just think he realized that he was sailing off the edge and would never have a career opportunity this good ever again, and that's a powerful realization for someone to have. Losing his uncle after the 2008 season really impacted him, too. He's still only 27, so even if he sits for a couple of years he might be ready to start for someone when he's 29... and there are teams willing to spend a 1st round pick on a player like that. (TEE HEE.)

I'm rooting for him. Still love his arm. Love that he's lost a bunch of weight and is surrounding himself with better people. Jeff Garcia was a teammates in his Oakland days. Oakland was a mess when he went there, which doesn't simply excuse him, but... Oakland was a mess. Can't wait to see what he looks like in preseason. I'd be willing to bet he's on a team by then.

If anyone's interested, this video (it's ESPN) is a fairly good watch. Not too long.


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According to ESPN Russell will have a try out with the Bears on friday.
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Chicago probably wont sign him, but this is a big step possibly. I'm interested to see if he gets more looks from other teams if he is decent.
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