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Old 07-01-2013, 01:12 PM    (permalink
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I would put Donaldson in over Machado.
No chance. Machado's been a top 10 player this year.
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Machado has been a stalwart. Donaldson has been good but not better than Manny.
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You can make an argument for Donaldson over Machado. Donaldson has definitely been better offensively. However, Machado's defense more than compensates for any difference there, IMO.
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Machado having 38 doubles on July 1st is insane.
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Donaldson has a better OBP, iso, wRC+ and more HRs. Donaldson has been unreal with the glove but the very flawed UZR happens to like Machado more.

I'll take Donaldson.
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Donaldson has a better OBP, iso, wRC+ and more HRs. Donaldson has been unreal with the glove but the very flawed UZR happens to like Machado more.

I'll take Donaldson.
More HR's but Manny has more TB's (because he hits doubles like a psycho), Hits, and Runs.

Personal Preference : Manny
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Donaldson has a better OBP, iso, wRC+ and more HRs. Donaldson has been unreal with the glove but the very flawed UZR happens to like Machado more.

I'll take Donaldson.
You are an A's fan... of course you would take Donaldson.
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More HR's but Manny has more TB's (because he hits doubles like a psycho), Hits, and Runs.

Personal Preference : Manny
Runs? Really?

Machado:
Hits
TB
Doubles
BA (basically a push)
UZR

Donaldson:
OBP
SLG
OPS
wRC+
BBs

It's not like it isn't close, but I will take what Donaldson brings to the table.
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You got that right.
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Runs count NIP..RUNS COUNT!
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On a sidenote, Since Melky has gone on the DL, Rajai Davis has torn it up on the basepaths. He literally wants to steal every base.
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I loved that about Rajai when he was in Oakland.
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Great win from the A's today.

And Donaldson really needs to be an All-Star.
He should but unfortunately won't because as pointed out, 3rd Base in the AL is loaded and he'll get overlooked. I think the media's AL East bias might have some impact on Machado getting in (not that he doesn't deserve to be an all-star starter on any normal year).

Just as long as Kipnis makes it I'll be happy. He should be at least the backup 2B to Pedroia.
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Kipnis has been nasty this year. He was good last year, but he took it to another level this season especially recently.
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Wonder who makes it from the Cubs. Kevin Gregg???
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Why has Castro been so horrible?
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Donaldson has a better OBP, iso, wRC+ and more HRs. Donaldson has been unreal with the glove but the very flawed UZR happens to like Machado more.

I'll take Donaldson.
UZR is flawed, but it is still a decent indication of defense, and any scout would say Machado is vastly superior defensively, as well. He should be playing shortstop.
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With Evan Longoria's foot injury, we may see this problem with AL 3B work itself out.

And I fully agree that Machado should be playing SS.
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With Evan Longoria's foot injury, we may see this problem with AL 3B work itself out.

And I fully agree that Machado should be playing SS.
Don't you disrespect JJ Hardy like that
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Dodgers are close to a deal for Marmol....


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I don't think we are giving anything up or paying much (if any) of his deal, but if it means he might get a chance to play...it is a bad bad idea.
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