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Old 07-08-2013, 02:28 PM    (permalink
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As it has been noted in this thread many times, CP3 should be the one being called out for not winning anything before anyone else at the moment considering the star treatment/attention he receives.

Even Dwight has been to the Finals and he is a sissy ( would never say that to his face...ever).
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I want to see McLemore tear up the summer league already
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Not trying to troll, because I really like Durant, but how much longer does he get to win a ring before people start criticizing him? Or does he get a pass because he's so well liked?
Give him 3 more years. He got to a finals quicker than most superstars do.
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So would you rather have someone who demands the ball and "takes over" games, but has little to no success (Melo) or as you claim, the guy who only takes jump shots and lets others take over with no real success but a lot more than the former in a lot shorter time (Durant)?

Let's be honest here bbd, if Durant is a clown for not taking over and winning nothing, then Melo must be a clown's asshole after eating White Castle.
The difference is Melo gets plenty of heat for his shortcomings, yet Durant is the white knight of basketball.
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You'll come around to it in a year. Durant gets propped up bc we want to give LeBron a rival. But he's not up to the task.
Are you trying to become Skip Bayless Jr. here? Because if that's the goal you're actually doing a good job.
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The difference is Melo gets plenty of heat for his shortcomings, yet Durant is the white knight of basketball.
Melo has played for 4 more years than Durant. Durant will soon get crap.
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The difference is Melo gets plenty of heat for his shortcomings, yet Durant is the white knight of basketball.
At the same time, Durant has hit many more clutch shots in big moments than Melo. He has come up big time after time at the end of games. Westbrook is a stud, but Durant is always alpha male at the end of the game when they need it the most.
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The difference is Melo gets plenty of heat for his shortcomings, yet Durant is the white knight of basketball.
Ah, but see that has nothing to do with why you apparently hate him. You hate on him because he doesn't demand the ball, take over games, or do whatever it takes to win as you earlier stated, whereas you apparently believe Melo does.

So that begs the question, would you prefer the guy perceived to be the ball dominant "winner" who really sucks at it, or the guy perceived as the passive jump shooter that doesn't have a winning instinct and is still better at it than the "winner"?

Basically, do you want someone who actually wins or someone you think looks like they can win?
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Ah, but see that has nothing to do with why you apparently hate him. You hate on him because he doesn't demand the ball, take over games, or do whatever it takes to win as you earlier stated, whereas you apparently believe Melo does.

So that begs the question, would you prefer the guy perceived to be the ball dominant "winner" who really sucks at it, or the guy perceived as the passive jump shooter that doesn't have a winning instinct and is still better at it than the "winner"?

Basically, do you want someone who actually wins or someone you think looks like they can win?
Don't do this.
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Durant won as many playoff series by the time he was 23 as Melo has in his career at age 29.

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Melo is not in KD's stratosphere. He just isn't close.
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The Bucks might be the worst managed team in the NBA. Why let Ellis walk then sign Mayo for $24/3? Why trade Jennings for an older and worse player in Teague (who won't sign for much cheaper).

These guys signed Ersan ******* Ilyasova to a longterm contract at $8m/y...
The Bucks did offer Ellis a contract extension (more than he's going to get on the open market) and Monta really isn't a better player than Mayo. Monta's best in the open court, and in a half court set he's not too good. It's already been covered too that Jennings is not any better, if at all, than Teague. Brandon is talented, but he's simply too much of a black hole offensively.

The Ersan comment is just ridiculous; he's well worth the contract.
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Don't do this.
82games.com records "clutch stats" Durant is better than Melo in everything except for rebounds per 48 Minutes.

He takes more shots, at a higher percentage, drawing more Free Throw attempts, and making them at a higher rate.

But he doesn't want the ball, so he is not as good.
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Carmelo Anthony has a better basketball skillset than Kevin Durant.
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The Bucks are probably going to be exactly as good as they were this year, just with different players. Teague is a little better than Jennings if he plays like he did last year, Mayo probably a bit worse than Ellis. They seem perfectly happy with being Lebron's whipping boy for the rest of his career.
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Kaman to the Lakers on a one year deal.

Also sounding more and more like Pek is staying in Minny.
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He does have a cooler first name, I'll give you that.
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Kaman to the Lakers on a one year deal.

Also sounding more and more like Pek is staying in Minny.
I wasn't the biggest fan of Kaman in his time with the Mavs. But a big man rotation that includes Gasol, Hill and Kaman isn't terrible.
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He does have a cooler first name, I'll give you that.
Quicker release, better post up moves, more thickness and can play the 4, thus more versatile, better rebounder, better defender.

Melo is a better basketball player than Kevin the Clown.
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If we let the Cavs go ahead and take Bynum, we are a minor Dirk injury away from being in the Wiggins sweepstakes, not sure why that hasn't been mentioned more. It's definately not a playoff team since this isn't a better team then last year and Dirk is 1 year older, if he has just a slight decline we should at least be in the bottom 10 and may get a lucky bounce of the ball.


Cuban always says the worst place to be is in purgatory, so I don't see why he would willingly want to make any moves at this point to put us into the 8th seed battle.


And I cant believe some of you let bbd bait you in with the Durant/Melo nonsense. Troll arguments are a waste of everyones time except for the person doing the trolling. I'd much rather post gifs or cat pictures then initiate that argument.
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The Bucks are probably going to be exactly as good as they were this year, just with different players. Teague is a little better than Jennings if he plays like he did last year, Mayo probably a bit worse than Ellis. They seem perfectly happy with being Lebron's whipping boy for the rest of his career.
I think their goal is to get above that 8 seed and see what happens.
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And I cant believe some of you let bbd bait you in with the Durant/Melo nonsense. Troll arguments are a waste of everyones time except for the person doing the trolling. I'd much rather post gifs or cat pictures then initiate that argument.
For real, even brody dipped out of this one early.

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I wasn't the biggest fan of Kaman in his time with the Mavs. But a big man rotation that includes Gasol, Hill and Kaman isn't terrible.
I suppose he's whatever on a one year deal, doesn't seem to fit the D'Antoni system at all though. That is if they're even trying to run his system anymore.
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No one on the Lakers fits MDA's system, so I would hope we don't try to run it again.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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