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Old 05-29-2013, 12:24 PM    (permalink
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I'm not sure New England will draft another wide receiver. If you think about how the Patriots use their personnel, the most common formation is the "Ace" formation (1RB/2WR/2TE.) Right now, that personnel is projected to be composed of Stevan Ridley at RB, Danny Amendola/Aaron Dobson at WR, and Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez at TE. So, to get a wide receiver onto the field, you'd have to remove one of the guys there. When the Patriots go to a three-wide formation (maybe in an empty set, or due to injury), they have some options (Julian Edelman, Josh Boyce, etc.)

New England is a deep, well-rounded team, so they may be able to take the best player available approach, which could be a wide receiver, but I think the most likely "need" area will be upgrading at one of the following positions:

RG - Dan Connolly, Marcus Cannon
LE - Rob Ninkovich, Jake Bequette, Michael Buchanan
DT - Tommy Kelly, Armond Armstead

We haven't seen much of Cannon or Bequette, and we haven't seen any of Buchanan or Armstead, so it's difficult to evaluate at this point.
It appears every year that the Pats shuffle their receiving unit.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:18 PM    (permalink
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Johnny Manziel and Marcus Mariota before Tajh Boyd, throw in Bret Hundley too.
I honestly don't see Manziel as a Top 3 QB in this draft.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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I honestly don't see Manziel as a Top 3 QB in any draft.
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Oakland is bad, but...come on.


Wouldn't hate the pick, though...at least at this stage.
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Oakland is bad, but...come on.


Wouldn't hate the pick, though...at least at this stage.
What does your top 10 look like?
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
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Nice pick for Miami. I'm a big fan of Cyrus.
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Oakland is bad, but...come on.


Wouldn't hate the pick, though...at least at this stage.
Now that I looked at the schedule I see 2 maybe 3 winnable games outside the division

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2 Jacksonville
12 Tennessee
14 NYJ
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts
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I don't see how this is not your average 2014 mock draft? No real surprises that are totally out there, I agree with a lot you have on there.

I must say the Tajh Boyd and Mariota, don't see how in the world Boyd is a top 6 pick. He is solid but there is a certain level of elite athletic ability and arm ability there with him, and Mariota, good luck without Chip Kelly, will see how that goes for him.

Jeff Driskel or Logan Thomas to me have more talent than both of these guys arguably in terms of their athletic ability and throwing arm/ arm strength. Sadly Driskel has signed with the Red Sox so see where he goes with his football life.


But like many have said most of the Boyd stuff is coming from Russell Wilson and his success last year. But Boyd simply does not have that type of an arm that Wilson does, and I don't think he has the composure either.


Malcolm Mitchell is an absolute star, he will be a 1st round pick when he comes out, the ball in his hands, he is absolutely elite. I expect a huge year out of him but he does need to get his act together off the field.

And Seantrel Henderson I would be surprised if he does not play himself into being a 1st round pick. Has the ability and finally played decent last season after a pretty sub par and lack luster first two seasons.

Aaron Colvin, a lot of people like him, but he has some what disappointed me, I thought he would be much better than he was and should have been drafted already. But will see what happens.


Louchiez Purifoy, interesting to see if he can play both ways this year. The two way corner is so interesting and rare. Malcolm Mitchell was said to be doing it last year and that never really happened much. Nickolas Brassell is going to be real exciting, coming back to Ole Miss, probably will not play both ways but with his speed and ball skills, hopefully they still let him return punts or kicks with that speed.


I would say some sleeper seniors are Zach Mettenberger, if he has a monster, with his size and arm, he could really climb up the charts. Stephen Morris is another, should have a killer season and shows awesome touch with the ball. Cornelius Lucas is a huge kid, good athlete and could really increase his stock with a good year. Jonotthan Harrison, plays a lot like the past great Florida center, big kid and powerful.
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I don't see how this is not your average 2014 mock draft? No real surprises that are totally out there, I agree with a lot you have on there.
Quandre Diggs is my biggest riser, I believe right now I am the only person to have him on the 1st Round radar.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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Jeff Driskel or Logan Thomas to me have more talent than both of these guys arguably in terms of their athletic ability and throwing arm/ arm strength. Sadly Driskel has signed with the Red Sox so see where he goes with his football life.

Logan Thomas is awful. He is a guy who looks the part and just like last year, he will have his supporters. But he sucks and unless he takes a gigantic step this year, I don't see him ever being an NFL starter.

As for Driskell, he signed with Boston as a backup (similar to what Jake Locker did). But if he wants to be a high draft pick, he too needs to take a huge step. The Gators win in spite of him, not because of him. He had two games over 200 yards passing (none after week 4) and four games under 100 yards. If he was any good, the Gators would lean on him, not try to mask him.
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Logan Thomas is awful. He is a guy who looks the part and just like last year, he will have his supporters. But he sucks and unless he takes a gigantic step this year, I don't see him ever being an NFL starter.

As for Driskell, he signed with Boston as a backup (similar to what Jake Locker did). But if he wants to be a high draft pick, he too needs to take a huge step. The Gators win in spite of him, not because of him. He had two games over 200 yards passing (none after week 4) and four games under 100 yards. If he was any good, the Gators would lean on him, not try to mask him.
Logan Thomas, he is very similar to Josh Freeman, huge kid and that size is important at the next level and a lot of teams find it hard to pass up. Josh Freeman if you remember in college was considered pretty lazy, not living up to his ability but come draft day and after workouts he got picked high and has turned out to be a decent pro. Will Thomas do that, who knows but potentially he has something with that size and raw ability. That VT team has been playing poorly though for years and that defense is consistently overrated I feel. Even when they win the league they are still not even close to being a nationally elite team.

Driskel, yes he is very raw but showed flashes last year and that arm and athletic ability, it is impressive. I would hope he will improve this season and I expect him to do so.




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Diggs is a not a huge out of the norm pick, he is a very good player but hard to notice him on a Texas team that has been very sub par over the past few seasons. Has great ball skills, quick, covers well, great tackler for his size, good with the ball in his hands. But like I said, hard to notice him on an awful Texas defense last year, they just seemed terrible to me and that is hard to believe since they had Okafor, Jeffcoat, Diggs and Vaccaro on that defense. So either they do not play as a group, have a bad coordinator or some of those players are not actually that good.

Diggs again though I would not say is a stretch as a 1st rounder. It is probably more people might not think he will come out and is not better than Roby or Ekpre-Olomu.
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Diggs is a not a huge out of the norm pick, he is a very good player but hard to notice him on a Texas team that has been very sub par over the past few seasons. Has great ball skills, quick, covers well, great tackler for his size, good with the ball in his hands. But like I said, hard to notice him on an awful Texas defense last year, they just seemed terrible to me and that is hard to believe since they had Okafor, Jeffcoat, Diggs and Vaccaro on that defense. So either they do not play as a group, have a bad coordinator or some of those players are not actually that good.

Diggs again though I would not say is a stretch as a 1st rounder. It is probably more people might not think he will come out and is not better than Roby or Ekpre-Olomu.
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
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I'm down with Big Cyrus. I also wouldn't mind Seantrel there as long as he gets it together this season.
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Nice pick for Miami. I'm a big fan of Cyrus.
Hopefully we traded up to get him.

Miami should go BPA amongst LT, TE, DT, FS, 4-3 SLB in the 1st round.
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Not only is Mosley a poor fit for the Tampa 2, but Dallas has no need to spend a 1st on a LB. We have 2 studs in Lee and Carter, Justin Durant is young and just signed to play Sam, and we have good depth in Ernie Sims, Alex Albright, Davonte Holloman and Brandon Magee.

Giving us Mosley makes even less sense when you have Jake Matthews and Cyrus Kouandjio going right after our pick, Tackle is a huge need for Dallas... and I'd be willing to bet if we're drafting 13th next year it's because our OL sucked yet again.
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With Decker in a contract year and Bey Bey the following year I don't see Denver keeping Decker, Brandon Coleman would be a good pick at 31 or Ra'Shede Hagemen to play DT next to Williams.
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I wouldn't expect the lions to be targeting a CB in round 1 at this point. Their early needs are Oline, WR, OLB, and Safety (assuming that Delmas has another oft injured season).
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11. Dallas - C.J. Mosely OLB Alabama
I'd break my TV if Dallas took Mosely there.

Give them any of the following instead:
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14. Arizona - Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M
15. Miami - Cyrus Kouandjio OT Alabama
16. St. Louis - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix S Alabama
23. Indianapolis - De'Anthony Thomas RB/WR Oregon
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Tampa won't take Duitt.
as a saints fan id be very happy if tampa passed on tuitt tbh
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