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Old 10-13-2010, 09:15 PM    (permalink
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Bradford's ceiling = Peyton
Bradford's floor = Phillip Rivers
...I would hope this is a joke. His floor is certainly lower than Philip Rivers.
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Bradford's ceiling = Peyton
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So...Bradford's floor is higher than his ceiling.

(oh snap I went there)
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So...Bradford's floor is higher than his ceiling.

(oh snap I went there)
Do I see what you did there? Yes.

Do I disagree? Not really.
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Bradford will be better than River. Rivers has always had great weapons. Lets see Rivers play on a bad team with limited weapons. Bradford is making players around him better.
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Bradford will be better than River. Rivers has lways had agreat weapons. Lets see Rivers play on a bad team with limited weapons. Bradford is making players around him better.
What's he playing with now?
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What's he playing with now?


Gates and Floyd ?
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5 games into the season and here it comes.
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Gates and Floyd ?
LMAO@Floyd being considered a weapon. Gtfo here with that, you mean the same Malcolm Floyd who had been in the league 6 seasons, had 1 season over 700 yards, no seasons over 800, and season highs of 45 catches and 4 TD's? Now you want to consider that a weapon, or did you not pay attention before you wrote his name down?


Having 1 good TE doesn't mean you have weapons, if you consider Malcolm Floyd any sort of weapon then 98% of teams in the league have an elite player at WR.
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LMAO@Floyd being considered a weapon. Gtfo here with that, you mean the same Malcolm Floyd who had been in the league 6 seasons, had 1 season over 700 yards, no seasons over 800, and season highs of 45 catches and 4 TD's? Now you want to consider that a weapon, or did you not pay attention before you wrote his name down?


Having 1 good TE doesn't mean you have weapons, if you consider Malcolm Floyd any sort of weapon then 98% of teams in the league have an elite player at WR.
Gates is having an MVP type of season. He is uncoverable. He's is a HUGE weapon.

Floyd is pretty solid too.

Rivers is still a great QB though. But he's had the benefit of some awesome weapons during his career.
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5 games into the season and here it comes.
From a Rams fan. This is not the consensus opinion. He has shown flashes of greatness, basically he's shown what you want to see if you're a St. Louis fan; I don't think anyone would seriously argue Bradford is a top-flight QB right now. He's made his impact felt in a big way & has been better as a rookie than most in recent memory. Still, he's got a ways to go with his recognition skills & grasp of the offense. I feel like he'll be one of the league's best in a few years as he grows as a player and continues to be surrounded by weapons in St. Louis.
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From a Rams fan. This is not the consensus opinion. He has shown flashes of greatness, basically he's shown what you want to see if you're a St. Louis fan; I don't think anyone would seriously argue Bradford is a top-flight QB right now. He's made his impact felt in a big way & has been better as a rookie than most in recent memory. Still, he's got a ways to go with his recognition skills & grasp of the offense. I feel like he'll be one of the league's best in a few years as he grows as a player and continues to be surrounded by weapons in St. Louis.
They've done a good job there of building what looks like a solid offensive line around him although a good part of it was done before he got there. It doesnt hurt to have Stephen Jackson to hand the ball to either.
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They've done a good job there of building what looks like a solid offensive line around him although a good part of it was done before he got there. It doesnt hurt to have Stephen Jackson to hand the ball to either.
Yea I love what they've brought him into. His OL play has been very good and Steven Jackson, though he's lost a step (quickness/speed), is still one of the league's top 10 backs. What I like about Sam so far in the NFL is how confident he's been & how you can already see him elevating the play of the guys around him. He's already one of the NFL's best on third down & in the red-zone.

I don't think it'll be long before the Rams win the NFC West. Naturally I have a ton of pride in my evaluation of Bradford so I'm rooting for St. Louis. Ndamukong Suh may have walked in and become the best player on his defense early but Sam is bringing wins to his franchise & making the guys around him better.
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I was not a big Sam Bradford believer.
I just didn't see what others saw in him.
Definitely thought he was a reach at No.1 especially after missing a whole season.

Was I ever wrong?! I haven't really caught a game of his- Rams aren't really on primetime TV or anything lol
but from the highlights I've seen and looking at his stats, he's doing a billion times better than I thought he would.
He makes everyone around him better (or so it seems)
He made Mark Clayton look good, Danny boy caught 12 passes and now D.Alexander comes from the practice squad and looks beastly.
Common denominator is Bradford. Good for him. I hope he continues to improve.
Rams look like they have a good future
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Its gonna be Mark Sanchez and Sam Bradford fighting to be the top QB in the NFL along with Rivers and Rodgers
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Dont forget Eyebrows Joe Flacco!!!!!


But I think Bradford will exceed both Sanchez,Flacco,Ryan etc. This guy is amazing.
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Sanchez? Top QB? Really?
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I really like this dude. No duh, he has tripled our win total. But he is talking like a veteran. In his postgame conference he said that the difference between being an averasge team and a good team is winning on the road. We are 3-1 at home and 0-2 on the road including an embarrassing humbling 44-6 loss to the Rams. He knows we gots to do better on the road and next week we go to Tampa.
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This Sam Bradford dude sucks way more than I thought. LOL!!!!


I actually started to like Bradford during the draft process (I thought he was worthy of going in the 1st round, but not Top 10 overall). His NFL story line is looking similar to Alex Smith. Really crappy teams and really bad offensive coordinators wasting away years of progression. Bradford needs to go to a good team with a good system to be any good. His ceiling is that a fringe Top 10 QB. Which is what Alex Smith is. A guy who's not a Pro Bowl player, but close, but not going to win a championship. And despite the Rams front office calling him their QB - their "franchise" QB - I think they start considering moving him or looking for their future QB within the next two years.

He needs out of St Louis. The Vikings would be a great place for him. Bradford just doesn't seem like a guy that makes his teammates better. Kinda like how he was at Oklahoma. He needs talent around him. Very young and inexperienced wide receivers are hurting him. If he had a strong offensive line and running game he'd look much better, but, offensively, the Rams continue to be a bad team.

EDIT: I was also a major douchebag when I started this thread. I don't think I'm that bad anymore. As biased as this thread was, the negatives were mostly right. I just short changed him on his huge positives.
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I dug up a couple of scouting reports for each of them. Guess who's who: (You probably can, but that's not the point)

QB 1

6'4" 217 lbs, 4.75

________ is a mobile quarterback with good quickness, agility, and awareness. He has a solid throwing motion, and he displayed fantastic accuracy. He has the athletic ability to be a threat running the ball as well as throwing it.
________ is also a very intelligent quarterback who reads defenses well and makes good, quick decisions. He has a tremendous work ethic on the field as well as in the film room, and he displays good leadership qualities.

The junior from _______ doesn't possess the strongest arm in the draft and might fit best in a West Coast style of offense, but he can make all the throws to be successful in the NFL, and he remains accurate when he's on the run. He has good, quick footwork, sound mechanics, and a high release point.
With the lack of a bona fide potential superstar quarterback in the _____ NFL Draft, _______'s stock has risen higher than it probably would have in most years. Some draft boards have him as the No. 1 selection overall.


And QB 2

6'4" 218 lbs 4.75

______ quarterback _________ had developed into one of the top prospects in the nation at quarterback by his sophomore season. ______, a redshirt junior, is not the most mobile quarterback, but he is very accurate. In my view, he would be a great fit in a West Coast system because of his accuracy and quick decision-making, but his skills won't limit him to that system alone.

He possesses adequate arm strength, decent mobility, and is a smart player who rarely makes mistakes, as his career touchdown-to-interception ratio illustrates. And at 6-4 and about 220 pounds, he has the size to play the position at the NFL level.


I edited some of the injury information out of the comparisons, because that's too obvious (although they did both suffer nearly identical shoulder injuries as well), and I realize that Bradford is now listed at something like 235 pounds, but those measurements are from the scouting reports, which are both from the same site. 40 times are basically common knowledge...And does anyone really doubt that Sam Bradford could've run for 10 touchdowns if he'd had been playing in the MWC?

http://football.about.com/od/playerp...smith.-Gwn.htm

http://football.about.com/od/nflplay.../Sam-Bradford/
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I've said this a few times; comparing Bradford to Smith isn't really an insult. They're just really similar. Until this year, Alex had been in a new offense every year as well, in addition to having injury problems. His projections over a full 2009 would have been something like 3600 yards, 27 TDs, 18 picks, 81.2 rating (if I remember correctly). Not too bad. If some team is getting that out of Bradford, we certainly won't be calling him a bust.
Is Sam Bradford a bust? Is Alex Smith? I still see them as extremely similar players who are more-or-less competent quarterbacks who can hack it in the NFL but can't carry a team and shouldn't have been picked first overall to be franchise saviors.
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Sanchez and Bradford - the future.
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Well, this thread shows exactly why we don't write the final chapter in October of the rookie season.
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Freeman , Bradford, and Sanchez. Who's next ?
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Freeman , Bradford, and Sanchez. Who's next ?
Do Gabbert and Ponder count?
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Crazy theory of mine. I've always followed OU in addition to my school. I thought he'd make it. He's very deliberate and just doesn't wing it. He's a very good golfer. And, most good golfers are anal about their game. Very slow and deliberate. Check everything. They don't go on instincts as much as other athletes. Makes them good golfers. But, maybe hurts his on the fly decision making thought process.
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