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Old 10-01-2013, 04:47 PM    (permalink
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I'm really not sure what you're talking about with Hundley's release. I don't see much of a difference between him and Mariota and certainly nothing like Byron Leftwich. The thing that confuses me about Mariota is how he has a 56% completion percentage this year on such a high powered offense. I've actually seen him make a lot of accurate throws which is why this is so confusing. Anybody who's watched him this year have an answer?
There have been a lot of drops so far from what I've seen.
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I just watched Boyd's tape against Georgia this year as I missed the game when it was on. I am way down on him after watching that. He made only a couple throws that I would even call good and was even inconsistent with his accuracy on short throws. I saw nothing that made me think he could be an NFL Qb. I assumed that would've been a good tape to watch with them beating a top team. Am I wrong? Also he has such an ugly throwing motion. I really don't get the hype on him at this point.
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I just watched Boyd's tape against Georgia this year as I missed the game when it was on. I am way down on him after watching that. He made only a couple throws that I would even call good and was even inconsistent with his accuracy on short throws. I saw nothing that made me think he could be an NFL Qb. I assumed that would've been a good tape to watch with them beating a top team. Am I wrong? Also he has such an ugly throwing motion. I really don't get the hype on him at this point.
Watch first half vs. NC State - he'll really disgust you.
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Watch first half vs. NC State - he'll really disgust you.
Haha I'm not sure I want to. I mean at this point I don't even know what round I'd want to take him in. I still have a bunch of qbs to scout but at this point he's even below Stephen Morris for me. I can at least imagine Morris playing in the NFL even if he's really far away from that at this point.

On a more positive note I finally got to watch some tape of Mettenberger from this year and its incredible how much he's improved. I've pushed him up to my #1 senior at this point. He has moments of inconsistencies but he makes some incredible throws that as Scott mentioned on the podcast tonight are "NFL throws". I think the second round is his most likely landing spot but the first round is an absolute possibility especially if some of the underclassmen stay in school.
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I've yet to actively scout Mariota this year but I just came across his stats.

He's completing 54% of his passes? What?
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I've yet to actively scout Mariota this year but I just came across his stats.

He's completing 54% of his passes? What?
Below 55% is unacceptable for top QB prospect nowadays. Decision making and accuracy, then arm strength are the most important attributes for a QB prospect.

Mariota still has to prove he's not a product of the Ducks offensive system.
I think Mariota stays for at least one more season.
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Y'all are overreacting to the numbers and a small sample size. Mariota completed 68% of his passes last year. He hasn't had many games where he's thrown a lot, or in tight games where he's throwing shorter passes to try and move the ball down field. I mean Oregon is always scoring very quickly.
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Y'all are overreacting to the numbers and a small sample size. Mariota completed 68% of his passes last year. He hasn't had many games where he's thrown a lot, or in tight games where he's throwing shorter passes to try and move the ball down field. I mean Oregon is always scoring very quickly.

Yeah but people talk about Mariota like he's going to bring that 600 yards of total offense a game with him to the pros.

I'm just not in favor of QBs declaring after only two years of starting when they still have eligibility left. Unless we're talking about Manziel.

Oregon's scheme is not driven by Mariota's playmaking ability. I don't even know if he's the most valuable offensive player on their squad.
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Huh? In that offense he should be near 70. He's 5 games in. Oregon scoring quickly has nothing to do with the fact he's dropped back more than 134 times and only completed a hair over half of those attempts.

His YPA is a very health 10.1, but I'm sure his receivers' YAC totals are insane.

I'm not making any declaration, the number just jumped out at me.

And now, again, just surveying the numbers, he had just a 7.9 YPA last year? Hm.
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I wonder if the fizzling out of the spread option in the NFL will have front offices once again reaffirm that the NFL QB position is played from within the pocket. I would be scared of drafting guys like Mariota and Hundley who are essentially option read system QBs.
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I wonder if the fizzling out of the spread option in the NFL will have front offices once again reaffirm that the NFL QB position is played from within the pocket. I would be scared of drafting guys like Mariota and Hundley who are essentially option read system QBs.
I wouldn't classify Hundley as a read option QB. Also I think most front offices assumed that the read option wouldn't be as effective this year. The QBs who were having success with it were guys with very solid passing skills to go along with their running ability. The main requirement for the QB position will always be delivering the ball from the pocket with running ability being a nice bonus.

When evaluating a guy like Mariota you've got to make sure he's going to be able to distribute the ball before you even consider his athletic ability.
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