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Old 10-01-2013, 09:21 PM    (permalink
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With Ozzie being Ozzie, and the Jags being the Jags, this shouldn´t come as a huge surprise.
You'd figure the Jags would shop around and some team would offer better than multiple day 3 picks though, no? Looks really good for the Ravens.
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After watching Martin act like a turnstile last nite for the Phins - you would think they would have contacted them first before making this deal to see if they wanted to offer slightly more....but no..It's the jags...
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Well, by this logic, I wonder if St. Louis could send up a 6th rounder for MJD.
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I still think the Jaguars would have been better drafting a pass rusher and keeping Monroe than drafting Joeckel and some random 4th and 5th rounder next year.
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Seriously, I'd have been cool with the giants dumping a day two pick on monroe. With how many teams ahve terrible OLs I can't believe all they got was day three picks.
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You'd figure the Jags would shop around and some team would offer better than multiple day 3 picks though, no? Looks really good for the Ravens.
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After watching Martin act like a turnstile last nite for the Phins - you would think they would have contacted them first before making this deal to see if they wanted to offer slightly more....but no..It's the jags...
How do you know that they didn't shop him around? Maybe no one wanted to give up more than what the Ravens did?

I seriously doubt any GM is dumb enough to just take the first offer offered to them. Teams are a lot more reluctant to trade high picks, mid-season, for players that are a few months away from getting paid. They need to find the money and there's no guarantee he'll sign for you.
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Seriously, I'd have been cool with the giants dumping a day two pick on monroe. With how many teams ahve terrible OLs I can't believe all they got was day three picks.
Teams aren't going to give up much for a 12 game rental. When has a team ever gotten good value when trading a player mid-season on the last year of his contract?
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I still think the Jaguars would have been better drafting a pass rusher and keeping Monroe than drafting Joeckel and some random 4th and 5th rounder next year.
So much this.

The whole point of the draft is to get better. Getting rid of your LT and replacing him with a draft pick doesn't make you better, you just stay the same.

If they drafted a pass rusher like Ansah and extended Monroe they get better. Instead their GM played the "safe" route and went with the LT. Safe is mediocre. Safe gets you fired.

You have 3 years as a coach and GM to build your program. You can't afford to play it safe anymore.
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You're assuming Monroe would want to be back. It's quite possible the Jaguars would be forced to use the franchise tag to keep him one more year, and they wouldn't have the option of using it again on him in 2015.
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Of course he'll come back if the money is right. Rarely does a player ever leave a team unless they don't offer him market value for his services.
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The Cardinals have traded OT Levi Brown to the Steelers.
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I didn't see exactly what it was for, just late a few round picks it looks like.
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Is he going to start over Mike Adams?
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That's the word, he'll compete with Adams for the starting job.
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Praise the football gods Levi Brown is gone!

it will be interesting to see if they give Massie a shot on the left side

apparently Bradley Sowell will be the starter(idk who that is)
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I'm pretty sure he started opposite Massie at Ole Miss.
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Of course he'll come back if the money is right. Rarely does a player ever leave a team unless they don't offer him market value for his services.
Yep. I trust that Ozzie will get a non-outrageous deal done with Monroe.
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Mike Adams is the exact same player as Levi only younger. Big Levi should have been moved to RT or even OG a long time ago...
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Would it really be a great move if the Jags kept Monroe and gave him a huge deal in the offseason? I'm not convinced Monroe's game lives up to his name, or that the Jags would be making a great move to give him huge money. Extending a LT costs big money.
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apparently Bradley Sowell will be the starter(idk who that is)
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Then can have McKinnie...
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Then can have McKinnie...
bolts will probably pickup mckinnie, they worked him out and gave him an offer this season before he re-signed with Baltimore. We're starting Mike Harris who has been more effective than expected but is not a legitimate answer. We also have zero depth behind him so no matter how bad McKinnie's looked it wouldn't shock me.
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They might have to trade for him. The Ravens won't gain anything by cutting McKinnie now since his salary (and all vested veterans) is now guaranteed they'll probably keep him as depth and cut Jah Reid if a deal can't be found.
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