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Lol no we dont. There is no Emmitt, There is no Moose, and this line is NOWHERE as good as that 90's team O-line. When people know what we are going to do we get stopped.
No we don't have the players for the full plan but we certainly have the receivers and enough of an Oline to work the timing stuff into the game plan, that is if Romo has the accuracy to consistently deliver a perfect pass on a slant on 3rd an 6 to Bryant.
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I'm glad you bought up the 90's and thats something I was thinking about recently, they had certain things they did and did so well, it didn't matter if you knew it was coming. That comes with trusting the playmakers around you.
As a QB Aikman had routes with Irvin that were just pitch and catch, perfect accuracy and timing and it didn't matter if he was doubled or had the best corner in the league on him and we need that kind of reliability in the passing game.
Just plays that are routinely gonna work -when you have a 3rd and 5 the slant especially when if done right, really can't be defended. The deep post which we don't seem to use. Much more crossing routes.

So yeah, along with opening it up and getting more aggressive with the deep ball also employing more of these routes.
All those All Pros and HOF'ers makes it easy doesnt it?
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All those All Pros and HOF'ers makes it easy doesnt it?
Well we have the all pro caliber receiver is the QB up to the challenge of delivering the rock. I'm not talking about all the things they did that teams couldn't stop(like running the ball) I'm just talking about developing the kind of timing and accuracy to have a play you can go to that is nearly impossible to stop. One or two plays. Can they do that??!!
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Well we have the all pro caliber receiver is the QB up to the challenge of delivering the rock. I'm not talking about all the things they did that teams couldn't stop(like running the ball) I'm just talking about developing the kind of timing and accuracy to have a play you can go to that is nearly impossible to stop. One or two plays. Can they do that??!!
Im not sure. We have the 4th highest scoring team in the league at 28.8 PPG and Romo has more yards passing in his 100 games that any QB in the history of the NFL in their first 100 games. Hes probably not any good.
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Im not sure. We have the 4th highest scoring team in the league at 28.8 PPG and Romo has more yards passing in his 100 games that any QB in the history of the NFL in their first 100 games. Hes probably not any good.
So that shouldn't be a problem, so why not get to work on it?

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Im not sure. We have the 4th highest scoring team in the league at 28.8 PPG and Romo has more yards passing in his 100 games that any QB in the history of the NFL in their first 100 games. Hes probably not any good.
So that shouldn't be a problem, so why not get to work on it?

And don't bring up the numbers I'm a fan of Romo but those numbers are skewed just like all cowboys offensive team records have been broken recently, just like defensive records for yards given up are being broken.
It's a 60-40 pass to run league now the numbers say something for Romo but things have changed over the last few years.
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So that shouldn't be a problem, so why not get to work on it?

And don't bring up the numbers I'm a fan of Romo but those numbers are skewed just like all cowboys offensive team records have been broken recently, just like defensive records for yards given up are being broken.
It's a 60-40 pass to run league now the numbers say something for Romo but things have changed over the last few years.
Dude you make no sense sometimes. Numbers are skewed and the fact our Defense is giving up frachise records in yardage means nothing huh? And whats your point on 60/40? You dont think we pass more than we run? Romo is on pace for 36 TDs and 10 picks. Guess thats not good enough in your books? Compare Dezs first 50 games to Calvin Johnsons. More catches, more yards and more TDs. Is he throwing it to himself?
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Dude you make no sense sometimes. Numbers are skewed and the fact our Defense is giving up frachise records in yardage means nothing huh? And whats your point on 60/40? You dont think we pass more than we run? Romo is on pace for 36 TDs and 10 picks. Guess thats not good enough in your books? Compare Dezs first 50 games to Calvin Johnsons. More catches, more yards and more TDs. Is he throwing it to himself?
No it means as much as Romo's numbers do, in a league that has vastly changed to a heavily passing league and huge amounts of yards being gained and given up.
To criticize or praise based on numbers needs to be done in the context of the prevailing status quo of the time. Which has a lot to do with the numbers. And no we pass more than we run and thats the point I'm making about Romo's numbers.

Forget about the first 50 games we're talking about this year. He needs the ball more and everyone knows that.

Again none of this answers the original question which is can they develop a few plays that we can count on in situations? You would think they could, so lets see it.
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Lol no we dont. There is no Emmitt, There is no Moose, and this line is NOWHERE as good as that 90's team O-line. When people know what we are going to do we get stopped.
The line may not be anywhere near as good, but beyond that there is some sick talent that can win most one-on-one matchups with top guys all across the league. How many corners could stop Dez without any help? Not very many. Witten gets open no matter what defense he plays because he's got that skill. Beastley and Williams aren't world beaters, but both guys have the ability to eat up some turf once the ball is in their hands, and besides the last game they've got damn near everything catchable that's thrown their way. Austin is what he is in terms of injury prone, but hell he might even do something too. It doesn't have to be Hall of Fame level, but they really have too much talent to not dominate defenses the way they should. Stats wise they're good, but too often I see them failing to sustain long drives when needed, and I think it's because they outsmart themselves too often.


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I'm glad you bought up the 90's and thats something I was thinking about recently, they had certain things they did and did so well, it didn't matter if you knew it was coming. That comes with trusting the playmakers around you.
As a QB Aikman had routes with Irvin that were just pitch and catch, perfect accuracy and timing and it didn't matter if he was doubled or had the best corner in the league on him and we need that kind of reliability in the passing game.
Just plays that are routinely gonna work -when you have a 3rd and 5 the slant especially when if done right, really can't be defended. The deep post which we don't seem to use. Much more crossing routes.

So yeah, along with opening it up and getting more aggressive with the deep ball also employing more of these routes.
I really want them to be more aggressive on offense. They have all of those weapons, but besides Dez no one has the mentality of "nobody is going to stop me." I really wish their attitude was better. They're hustling better than they used to back in the Wade days, but they really don't have top notch confidence like they should.
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No it means as much as Romo's numbers do, in a league that has vastly changed to a heavily passing league and huge amounts of yards being gained and given up.
To criticize or praise based on numbers needs to be done in the context of the prevailing status quo of the time. Which has a lot to do with the numbers. And no we pass more than we run and thats the point I'm making about Romo's numbers.

Forget about the first 50 games we're talking about this year. He needs the ball more and everyone knows that.

Again none of this answers the original question which is can they develop a few plays that we can count on in situations? You would think they could, so lets see it.
Our offense is predictable and 1 demensional. Ive been told all year our O-line is much better and yet we still cant run the ball. We drafted to run the 12 personnel but rarely run it. All of our TEs have been mostly non factors including Witten. This team seems to have no direction or idea of what they want to do, or they do but cant get it done. Sad to say but we are a .500 franchise. I agree, Dez need 8-10 touches a game but whether Romo throws for 500 yards and 5 TDs or our D holds a team to 17 points we find a way to lose. It is what it is.
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The line may not be anywhere near as good, but beyond that there is some sick talent that can win most one-on-one matchups with top guys all across the league. How many corners could stop Dez without any help? Not very many. Witten gets open no matter what defense he plays because he's got that skill. Beastley and Williams aren't world beaters, but both guys have the ability to eat up some turf once the ball is in their hands, and besides the last game they've got damn near everything catchable that's thrown their way. Austin is what he is in terms of injury prone, but hell he might even do something too. It doesn't have to be Hall of Fame level, but they really have too much talent to not dominate defenses the way they should. Stats wise they're good, but too often I see them failing to sustain long drives when needed, and I think it's because they outsmart themselves too often.




I really want them to be more aggressive on offense. They have all of those weapons, but besides Dez no one has the mentality of "nobody is going to stop me." I really wish their attitude was better. They're hustling better than they used to back in the Wade days, but they really don't have top notch confidence like they should.
For me, it all goes back to the line. It all starts up front. The Dez's of the world do no good if your QB is under duress all game. Plus the fact we cant run the ball at all makes it way easier to defend.
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Our offense is predictable and 1 demensional. Ive been told all year our O-line is much better and yet we still cant run the ball. We drafted to run the 12 personnel but rarely run it. All of our TEs have been mostly non factors including Witten. This team seems to have no direction or idea of what they want to do, or they do but cant get it done. Sad to say but we are a .500 franchise. I agree, Dez need 8-10 touches a game but whether Romo throws for 500 yards and 5 TDs or our D holds a team to 17 points we find a way to lose. It is what it is.
Yeah, those all seem like game plan/coaching issues to me, aside from not being able to run the ball. Which I don't know, that could be personnel or injury issues with Murray. But the other problems are all what I've been saying, we don't use our weapons correctly, where has escobar been, use him in the slot, especially in the red zone or when you need a 1st down.
Get the ball to Dez, develop a connection with him early and throughout the game. Get him the ball in key situations on slants when we need a 1st.
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Well we know what we have to do this week, at least defensively, slow down AP. It's not the best receiver in the game, this week, it's the best runner. Not an easy task but lets see how we fare in that matchup.

And I'd like to see the offense go into attack mode all game here, we need to use them as a scrimmage for the Saints game. Not that I'm saying they should overlook them, because they're gonna come to play. But lets get it together and drop some bombs on them. And give em Dez all day.

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Hey Jas,
I don't know if I really welcomed you here, but it's been nice having another voice around here to keep the action pumping. You got a lot of good things to say and from the nuggets that you dropped I get that you've been a long time fan of the boys. So yeah, glad you share the same memories, misery and of course future hopes! ;)

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The offensive issues, as always, stem back to the offensive line. The Cowboys have three-fifths of the issues in pretty good shape, with both tackles and the center position looking like they are in capable hands. But the guard problems are back. With Brian Waters out, likely for the year according to Jerry Jones, the solution they seemed to have at RG is now gone. That leaves Mackenzy Bernadeau to come back in, which may put some of Doug Free's vast improvement in jeopardy, since Waters seemed to be a stabilizing influence on him. But Bernadeau may not be the biggest issue.

Ronald Leary has been the weak link on the line all season. The UDFA and Jerry Jones' pet cat has consistently looked the worse of all the Dallas offensive linemen, at least since Waters came on board. It doesn't matter where you go to get an evaluation of his play. Pro Football Focus has him as the worst of the linemen (and, in a slightly encouraging note, showed Bernadeau with a positive grade in his work against the Detroit Lions). If you distrust PFF, you can look at what Bob Sturm (who also doesn't like PFF) or Bryan Broaddus have said about him lately. Both feel like he is the least effective of the linemen.

Once again, the Cowboys may be another draft away from really getting the line issues fixed, and there may be some real validity in the argument that Larry Warford would have been a more valuable pick than Gavin Escobar. Regardless, the issues Dallas has had with pass protection in several games has seemingly made Tony Romo a little leery himself, and he may be getting rid of the ball a beat too quickly to find the receivers he needs. Sturm covers this on one play in his latest Decoding Callahan post, which also points to Leary as the reason Romo feels the extra pressure on the play.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/...emains-unclear

Seems like somebody was very adamant about not trusting an UFA and not adding another Guard in the draft, especially after the horrendous year our line had last year. I'd love to know why Worford wasnt on our board. Also picking up a 30+ year old that had been retired for over a year was a big risk and really no surprise he gets injured and is out for the year.

I hope JJ addresses our lines in this next draft, like 2 guards, 2 DTs, a DE, OT We've got to get this fixed.
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There has been significant talk out of the Detroit game about the utilization of the Cowboys most important offensive weapon, Dez Bryant, after he tied his season low for targets in a game with just 6 at Ford Field. It sure seemed that Detroit entered the game with a very logical defensive premise that the Cowboys should be getting used to by now. Double team Bryant with a press corner in his face who takes away any quick throws and then falls back into inside leverage that takes away Bryant's deep-in (Dig) and always with a safety over the top.

Why certain teams do not employ this strategy is beyond me, as single-teaming Bryant, even with someone like Brandon Flowers or DeAngelo Hall seems like it will eventually burn you badly. But, you have to ask yourself that if you were playing the Cowboys, what would be your #1 priority?

Would it be to bring a safety up to stop the vaunted Cowboys rushing attack or would it be to stop Bryant by dedicating any resources to him on most plays - and especially all of the vital ones? Of course, it would be to do what you can against 88, which is easier in the field of play and more complicated in the redzone, as Bryant demonstrates each week.

When the opponent can do this and supplement it with strong pressure up front, the Cowboys then have to make the opponent pay with others. This leads us to the constant pounding of the ball in the direction of Terrance Williams, but with only 2 receptions on 10 targets, the Cowboys were playing right into the hands of Detroit. It was properly mitigated with the slant that went for 60-yards in the 4th Quarter, but for the most part, Romo to Williams was not working out - and the pressure from Detroit's front was forcing Romo to get the ball out quick or to face Nick Fairley from very close quarters on the turf.

Regardless, a check of the targets by game still ensure those who are angry that the "Cowboys don't use Bryant enough" or that they "aren't creative enough in getting him the ball" are reacting to a very small sample size. Look at the numbers through 8 games and see that not only is he always getting the ball, but the difference between Bryant's targets and the rest of the offense is growing by the week:


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This isn't to suggest that there aren't a few spots where Romo needs to trust the protection and get the ball downfield to his playmaker more, but this idea that the team isn't aware of the weapon they have seems a bit crazy to me. They are designing as sound a strategy as they can, but with no running game to bring up a safety, this gets tricky and the defense is simply taking away your best option to beat them.

The questions become whether or not there is a point where you can use a player enough without being guilty of forcing the ball into coverage. I would say that overall, the Cowboys have been very good about using him a ton - since Oct 2012 only 7 players have had more balls thrown to them than Dez Bryant in the entire league - and now that the red zone utilization of him has been improved, there is less and less to complain about. He is averaging over 9.3 targets a game and those who get more than that is a very small class of Calvin Johnson (12.6), Brandon Marshall (11.5), Reggie Wayne (10.6), Wes Welker (10.5), AJ Green (10.2), Andre Johnson (11), and Vincent Jackson (10.4).

Remember, this is not fantasy football and the Cowboys are not trying to force the ball to him to figure out ways to have him set individual records like Detroit was doing with Johnson last December. They are trying to get down the field in as best a way as possible. When the defense takes one player out with coverage, they need to make them pay with others. And with no DeMarco Murray and Miles Austin, this is tougher than it should be, but that isn't because the Cowboys are not aware of Dez Bryant's ability.
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It sounds like a joke, but I bet Mike Martz would be an amazing OC here.

I also like Baylor HC, Art Briles (who's daughter works for the Cowboys) and Jimbo Fisher, but I doubt he ever left FSU. Always loved Bob Stoops.

I'm so wide open to options now it ain't even funny.

If it was up to me, and we all know it should be, I'd bring in the following coaches:

Jon Gruden, HC - Enough clout to bench Jerry, handle the Dallas spotlight, and right Romo.

Scott Frost, OC (Oregon) - I don't want to run Chip Kelly's offense, just elements of it. Frost and Gruden should be able to come up with some creative stuff.

Bruce Matthews, O Line - We flirted with it a few years ago. Callahan has done little to impress me and whoever signed off on Nate Livings and Mackenzy Bernadeau should be banned from the organization.

Lovie Smith, DC - Monte Kiffin's exact defense, only more up-to-date and possesses the ability to make game adjustments.

Rod Marinelli, Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Line - He's earned it.

Mark Carrier, Secondary Coach - I don't dislike Jerome Henderson but we need SOMEONE who knows what decent Safety play looks like.

Also want to see Gruden add a hand-picked GM, someone like Scot McCloughan (current Seahawks' Senior Personnel Executive, former 49ers GM). Someone who's only job would be the roster, not pizza commercials, merchandise deals, and Justin Bieber concerts.

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Seems like somebody was very adamant about not trusting an UFA and not adding another Guard in the draft, especially after the horrendous year our line had last year. I'd love to know why Worford wasnt on our board. Also picking up a 30+ year old that had been retired for over a year was a big risk and really no surprise he gets injured and is out for the year.

I hope JJ addresses our lines in this next draft, like 2 guards, 2 DTs, a DE, OT We've got to get this fixed.
I'm glad that article also enlightened the fact that our last draft produced what seems to be many good players for us. If our biggest knock is that it's too early to redeem the value on our 2nd round pick then that's good news to me. Teams can reflect on draft picks with regrets till the end of time. Ultimately it boils down to Progress and Wins. This draft cannot have final grades on it 8 weeks into the season. It looks like that's the attempt here, and I think that's an unfair criticism. Furthermore, to want to bash it after having immediate positive results from 3 players taken in the first 3 rounds (Frederick, Williams, Wilcox) and to see the late round picks being used to step up when injury occurred (Randle and now Webb - w/Mo out) in their rookie years is really just nitpicking.

Could we be using Warford right now? Sure. But that's using hindsight. I notice that's a useful tool for you. If not OG, then it's DT.. or DE.. S.. or whatever position serves your argument at the time. The bias is clear. You are upset with Jerry Jones and every mistake will be magnified. It's been a long drought without success so you have every reason to feel that way, and I understand the crowd that you represent. Everyone has the right to their own opinion.

In reading that article I thought they were about to talk about a point that has been on my mind... and it relates to Escobar. But they didn't go there. Anyways, one thing on my mind that I think is the reason why we haven't seen more 2 TE sets and Gavin Escobar on the field is the emergence of Terence FREAKING Williams. He's emerged as a legit starter and he deserves to be on the field on every down. We don't need the gimmick of 2 TE sets. If Austin is healthy he's on the field in the slot. Beasley is a nice option as well. The team might have gone into the draft thinking that they wanted to reincorporate the 12 personnel set that we used to run off and on during Garrett's entire tenure here. So I can't blame the selection or the thought process behind it. It's just that T-Will emerged and flipped the script.
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Yes we had a very good draft, I'll admit that. Its not hindsight though, Im pretty sure we all know how I, and many others, felt during and after the draft. Is it nitpicking? I suppose, but its all about building a winning team. How many years has it been that we havent been able to run the ball now? Was the answer to draft a TE that cant block? A 4th RB? For the 1st time in the HISTORY of the NFL a team (us) has given up 400+ yards to QBs four times! And we are in week 8!!

Whats our record under Garrett now? Where is the progress? And your right, when it comes to this team its ALWAYS something. DT, OG, Safety, OT, and those positions either get ignored or JJ fills the spot with below average players. We are hemorrhaging and JJ applies a bandaid.

If we were in year 1 of a rebuild I'd say we had a great draft, but we're not. And our problems arent tied just to this draft. It seemed obvious to me, going into this draft that our most pressing needs were on BOTH lines and we needed way more than just a Center coming out of it. To see those needs get ignored AGAIN was bad GMing IMO and your seeing the results of YEARS of neglect or bad player pickups on the field.

Again, its about building a winning team. We are approaching 20 years without a SB apperance and only 1 playoff win. Is my frustration misguided? Should I point the finger at somebody besides JJ? Is being .500 and having a chance to make the playoffs now acceptable?
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But that's the sad fact. This team is mediocre because its talent level is mediocre. Look at the defense that tried in vain to stop Detroit. It forced four turnovers, but yielded 623 yards. That's because at times its lineup resembled an expansion franchise. For the umpteenth year (ten actually) Dallas fielded bargain-basement safeties. It used three un-drafted free agents, Barry Church, Jeff Heath and Jakar Hamilton, in deep patrol, and all of them played like UFAs. Bad angles, poor tackling and soft, uncertain double coverage let Calvin Johnson and his friends run riot.
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The line looks even worse. Jason Hatcher provided the lone sack, and while Rod Marinelli plays alchemist, turning lead into gold some weeks, his powers fade against the better attacks like Denver's and Detroit's.

Dallas is one-deep on the defensive line right now. Compare that to Seattle, who rolls eight deep at that position, and looks like a 21st century version of the '90s Cowboys, who also had eight starting-caliber linemen to attack you. Do you honestly think Dallas could punch with them in their house in January?
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We're seeing the sad results of the meager '06-'09 draft harvests. These drafts should have provided the veteran core of this team, the 5-8 year veteran base. Anthony Spencer's quiet end means that Dallas has only three contributors from the 34 picks it expended in those drafts, which coincide with the Wade Phillips' arrival and Jerry's "fun again" return. Only Jason Hatcher, Doug Free and Orlando Scandrick soldier on in blue and silver. A 3rd rounder, a 4th rounder and 5th rounder, respectively. Let's not forget that Dallas released Hatcher after the 2010 season and came very close to cutting Free. How dire would this team's outlook be today without those two
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When you don't have a solid offensive line your QB faces pressure the maximum amount of time. He has to hurry, timing is off, confidence can be rocked. You can't effectively throw deep, you can't run a full route tree, you can't run, you can't sustain drives, you can't, you can't, you can't. When your defensive line is a weakness the reverse happens. The other teams QB get's comfortable, the receivers can run patterns all over the field increasing the pressure on the back seven. The middle of the field becomes a black hole and the fourth quarter is your bane. Ahh how the dominoes fall outward from the middle of the field with amazing clarity and continuity.
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Linemen on both sides of the ball however have gratis. The base of your team. Where you build for the future. Raf homed in on the root of the Cowboys evils here when he (again) brought up the dearth of remaining talent from the '06-'09 draft class and how the ensuing lack of quality is consistently keeping the Cowboys at 8-8 ball. I posit that the issue is even deeper as Jerry consistently steers the team towards bling when putting the money in the foundation of the team is the answer as the key dominoes are the players in the trenches.
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until the Cowboys brain trust demonstrates a "continued" dedication to stocking both sides of the line the Cowboys will continue to have flash and hope right before the deafening bang and losses as the domino effect distracts one to look at symptoms rather than the true origin of the problem, which is the foundation of the Cowboys house. As you reflect upon the myriad of problems currently affecting the Cowboys consider that most are symptoms of the root issue, the Cowboys are trying to compete on feet of clay.
http://www.cowboysnation.com/2013/10...-to-build.html

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You have to find a way to get the ball into his hands, they can play press man with a safety over the top and you can still win on slants and crossing patterns. Imo you can still beat that stuff by trusting your player. On the two TD's he caught especially on the long one, they beat it because they had the guts to go attack it anyway..with a precise pass. If you can throw with precision you can beat it. But if you're gonna play safe, protecting Romo you can't do it.
And even if they are somewhat successful at limiting him because you're afraid to challenge the coverage and you don't have the running game to scare them out of it..Where was Witten??!
You have to use him to break that.
Where is bringing a back with speed out of the back field at hitting him(dunbar) a couple of times over the middle to soften it?


I'm glad to hear the apologists making a case for the team not being able to get him the ball but 7 players having more passes thrown their way doesn't make me feel better its the exact point..there shouldn't be 7 players with more targets..perhaps one..maybe.
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Yes we had a very good draft, I'll admit that. Its not hindsight though, Im pretty sure we all know how I, and many others, felt during and after the draft. Is it nitpicking? I suppose, but its all about building a winning team. How many years has it been that we havent been able to run the ball now? Was the answer to draft a TE that cant block? A 4th RB? For the 1st time in the HISTORY of the NFL a team (us) has given up 400+ yards to QBs four times! And we are in week 8!!

Whats our record under Garrett now? Where is the progress? And your right, when it comes to this team its ALWAYS something. DT, OG, Safety, OT, and those positions either get ignored or JJ fills the spot with below average players. We are hemorrhaging and JJ applies a bandaid.

If we were in year 1 of a rebuild I'd say we had a great draft, but we're not. And our problems arent tied just to this draft. It seemed obvious to me, going into this draft that our most pressing needs were on BOTH lines and we needed way more than just a Center coming out of it. To see those needs get ignored AGAIN was bad GMing IMO and your seeing the results of YEARS of neglect or bad player pickups on the field.

Again, its about building a winning team. We are approaching 20 years without a SB apperance and only 1 playoff win. Is my frustration misguided? Should I point the finger at somebody besides JJ? Is being .500 and having a chance to make the playoffs now acceptable?
Something else that really hasn't been mentioned is some of the ill advised contract extensions that have been handed out that handcuff what we can do in FA. Ratliff immediately comes to mind, so does Miles but we also have big money owed to Witten, Ware, and Romo.

I think drafting Escobar and Williams were to safeguard the future as much as getting immediate impact. Not saying I agree with Red Shirting guys when there are holes that need to be fixed now but if we can get those guys going it helps us in cap relief. If they can step into starter roles by next season the team can save $10+ mil by cutting their predecessor's prior to the 2015 season. An additional $3.5 mil can be saved if BW Webb can come in and subplant Scandrick.

I'd suspect this up coming draft the team will have no other option to draft for immediate starters. There are far to many holes in the trenches to not attempt to target impact players in that area. That being said I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a QB taken "higher" then expected to groom behind Romo ( who should be gone prior the 2017 season ).
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You have to find a way to get the ball into his hands, they can play press man with a safety over the top and you can still win on slants and crossing patterns. Imo you can still beat that stuff by trusting your player. On the two TD's he caught especially on the long one, they beat it because they had the guts to go attack it anyway..with a precise pass. If you can throw with precision you can beat it. But if you're gonna play safe, protecting Romo you can't do it.
And even if they are somewhat successful at limiting him because you're afraid to challenge the coverage and you don't have the running game to scare them out of it..Where was Witten??!
You have to use him to break that.
Where is bringing a back with speed out of the back field at hitting him(dunbar) a couple of times over the middle to soften it?


I'm glad to hear the apologists making a case for the team not being able to get him the ball but 7 players having more passes thrown their way doesn't make me feel better its the exact point..there shouldn't be 7 players with more targets..perhaps one..maybe.
Reading comprehension. The article, if you read it, was about how we are getting him the ball NOT the reasons why we cant. But I get it, according to you Dez should get 25 targets a game whether hes doubled, trippled or no matter what the Defenses are doing. Hes on pace to have 152 targets, thats a HUGE amount especially with the other guys around him. How many of the guys that have more targets than Dez, have the surrounding talent that Dez has? He was underused in Detroit, but again, thats a small sample size. Overall Dez is getting his targets
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Pretty much sums it up. Or how I feel anyway.
I agree and I think we've all felt that they should've been using more picks on the oline over the last few years.

I really think we just got hit with a lot of unfortunate injuries on the dline and we've been very happy and celebrating the no names and their ability to make up for lack of depth recently.
They had a less effective game this week and now people are pointing to the flaw of not having all pros on the bench to come in an play on the line.

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