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Old 11-22-2013, 11:16 AM    (permalink
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He could re-build his value, and then get flipped at the deadline to a contender.
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What's also sad is this contract is the 2nd biggest deal the Mets have given a player since Sandy began. What a sad state of affairs.
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Bourjous to Cards official. Probably Freese. Not sure if any other pieces.

Burke Badenhop also traded to the Red Sox.
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@MikeDiGiovanna: #Angels on verge of trading CF Peter Bourjos to #Cardinals, presumably for 3B David Freese, but could be other parts to deal.
Welp, thanks for the memories David.
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-Good deal for the Cards, love Bourjos and they got a decent fourth outfielder back while giving up a blah reliever

-Pls claim Jaff Decker, Dave
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Decker sucks. Bad Rule V claim.
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Decker sucks. Bad Rule V claim.
He's a patient guy with solid raw power, and he's left handed. He can easily be useful off the bench at worst. You know who sucks? I would say your offense, but that's an insult to the word suck.
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Lol the Angels are a joke

that deal reeks of desperation. A FO on the hot seat doing whatever they can to try and save their jobs

I don't mind them trading Bourjos since he didn't have a spot here, but this deal is just awful for the Halos in so many ways. It's like they were so adamant on trying to find another option at 3B that they just settled with Freese and paid whatever the Cards were asking. Giving up Grichuk and getting a middling reliever back is just awful

Halos need to improve their pitching AND their defense and this deal does neither. They probably got even worse defensively since Freese isn't good with the glove

Cards get younger, Halos get older. Cards improve their defense(Jay was not a good defensive CFer), Halos make their defense worse. Cards shed a few million on payroll, Halos add on a few million to an already bloated payroll

the difference between these 2 orgs really stood out in this trade. Halos got schooled

Cards great pitching staff will get a big boost with Bourjos roaming CF. With their current crop of bats in the lineup, anything Bourjos does will be a bonus. He's a decent hitter to with surprising pop and 20+ SB potential. I wish him the best and will be rooting for him
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oh and trading Callaspo at the deadline makes even less sense now since they went and traded Bourjos to get a 3B

nothing this team does makes sense
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Peralta wants 5 years $75 million. Yikes.
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Great trade for my Cards! Freese just doesn't hit anymore. And I think Desmond Jennings had more steals I think as we did as a team. And Boujois will help us. And Salas is ******* awful.
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lmao I heard that Salas was likely going to be non-tendered....perhaps Freese would have been to

too funny
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Anyone know anything about the prospect the Cards got? Seems like he has some pop in his bat.
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you'll hear ALL THE TIME that he was taken the pick before Trout

but as far as scouting goes....he has massive raw power and has a above average arm. He doesn't have a good approach at the plate(doesn't draw many walks and K's too much) and has trouble recognizing offspeed pitches

he's battled injuries early in his career which have slowed his development, but he definitely has some ability. Ceiling wise he could be a .250 hitter with 25 HR's from a corner OF spot most likely. His power numbers this past season were pretty impressive considering the hitting environment he was in + his age. He's likely a C+ type prospect. An average regular if he reaches his potential
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Lol the Angels are a joke

that deal reeks of desperation. A FO on the hot seat doing whatever they can to try and save their jobs

I don't mind them trading Bourjos since he didn't have a spot here, but this deal is just awful for the Halos in so many ways. It's like they were so adamant on trying to find another option at 3B that they just settled with Freese and paid whatever the Cards were asking. Giving up Grichuk and getting a middling reliever back is just awful

Halos need to improve their pitching AND their defense and this deal does neither. They probably got even worse defensively since Freese isn't good with the glove

Cards get younger, Halos get older. Cards improve their defense(Jay was not a good defensive CFer), Halos make their defense worse. Cards shed a few million on payroll, Halos add on a few million to an already bloated payroll

the difference between these 2 orgs really stood out in this trade. Halos got schooled

Cards great pitching staff will get a big boost with Bourjos roaming CF. With their current crop of bats in the lineup, anything Bourjos does will be a bonus. He's a decent hitter to with surprising pop and 20+ SB potential. I wish him the best and will be rooting for him
It's alllll good buddy. The Rangers will get Robinson Cano and David Price soon enough to make any hopes you used to have completely dashed anyways.
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Will things end like every other Rangers season over the past few years? With them choking? If so I'm down

As long as they have Ron WAshington as manager, things will be ok

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Will things end like every other Rangers season over the past few years? With them choking? If so I'm down

As long as they have Ron WAshington as manager, things will be ok

Competing and losing is fine. Not being in the competition isn't.

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Jon Morosi of FOX Sports reports that the Cardinals may be interested in free agent Jhonny Peralta. The Cardinals are scouring the market for an upgrade at shortstop, and if they believe the 31-year-old can still hack it defensively, his bat would be a welcomed addition to the offense. Peralta is believed to already have multiple four-year, $52 million offers, with the Yankees, Mets and Orioles expressing interest.
I hope this isn't true. Mo is to smart for this. I would just rather resign Furcal for a year and save a crapload of money. That to me is the best play when talking about the Cards SS situation. That way They wouldn't have to unload on some pitching prospects. I think some teams are just being ridiculous in their asking price because of the fact that the redbirds are so desperate for a new SS. Baltimore asking for Shelby Miller for JJ Hardy, rumors swirling last week that Colorado was asking for Allen Craig and Michael Wacha for Tulo.
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Sounds like Yanks are about to sign Brian McCann
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80 million for McCann? Lol
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MORE than $80 million

Yuck

though this is a nice fantasy boost for McCann!
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K now it's done

5yr/$85 mill with 6th year being a vesting option that could take it to 6yr/$100 mill
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McCann is awesome unfortunately.
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Ugh... Well there goes that pipe dream.
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