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Old 05-03-2013, 07:51 AM    (permalink
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Why give up anything for a 29 year old that will likely be cut? Also, I think his movement skills are best suited for inside in the 3-4.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:37 AM    (permalink
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Honestly, I don't want Revis. He wants 16 million a year. This is a guy who complained about his contract a year after he got a 12 million per year extension in 2011. He won't back down from his 15-16 mil per year demands at all.

He wants to test the Market. Just walk away Dom. Walk away and get your guys through the draft and sign a guy like Mike Jenkins and re-up Biggers. Draft Rhodes and we're good.
And here's one money shot.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:51 AM    (permalink
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I don't understand why we would just cut him. We have 24 million in cap room. Plus Dom was just saying on joebucsfan that you can free up another 3.5 million from this years 16 million.

Even if he's not in your long term I'd keep him this year. You have a better shot mid season ( Maybe someone goes down ) Or ( Team in the hunt that didn't think they would be there ) Or ( He plays well and ups his value even more ) I just don't understand giving up one of the best players in the league because he making 6 million more than the next CB. When you don't need the money.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:58 AM    (permalink
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First off, it was probably one of the worst trades in NFL history. Revis was one year away from unrestricted free agency. He couldn't be franchised. Despite knowing this and the fact that he was fresh off a torn ACL (which we never saw him fully recover from and there is no guarantee that he has) the Bucs sent a 1st and 3rd round pick to the Jets for a guy, that if they just waited a season, could get with no compensation. Then they take Revis and sign him to a contract that is far above his free agent market value. Think about what CBs were getting paid last season in unrestricted free agency... $5 million a season for some really good CBs... and the Bucs gave him $16 million in addition to giving up the 1st and 3rd for a player that wasn't fully recovered from his injury. That's three negatives right there, Compensate player, compensate Jets, guy isn't healthy.

And it isn't that we need the money, we need to spend our money more wisely. Good defenses are built on the backs of their front 4, not the DBs...it's never been done that way successfully. Great defenses have great defensive lines... and you can't have a great defensive line if you're giving up elite QB money to a CB and you're giving up premium draft picks to do it.

In a good defense, a great DB is a want, a great pass rush is a must-have. That's why Revis has to go.... want vs. need.
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The trade sucked. In hindsight, it reeks of Dominik trying to save his job and unfortunately for the organisation as a whole it didn't work out. But I am not going to blame Licht and Lovie for it in any way. If they think 16 million is a waste of money and think they can pay a guy 7 to do exactly the same job, then hopefully their decision is justified.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:23 PM    (permalink
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The trade sucked. In hindsight, it reeks of Dominik trying to save his job and unfortunately for the organisation as a whole it didn't work out. But I am not going to blame Licht and Lovie for it in any way. If they think 16 million is a waste of money and think they can pay a guy 7 to do exactly the same job, then hopefully their decision is justified.
I think Verner is making something like $4.5 this season... we essentially got Johnson, Verner, and McDonald for Revis... and damn good trade in my opinion.
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