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Old 03-17-2014, 07:29 PM    (permalink
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Kenny Britt might be on the Panthers radar. Not sure if this would be a plus or a minus.
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Walterfootball.com nails this signing:



(http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2014recap.php)

Classic case of a lazy player with lots of physical talent but no effort or heart having a career year during a contract season, and then signing a long term deal with a team and going back to not trying.
I agree with a lot of what you said. But out of any coach I'll take my chances with Coughlin getting him to play hard. Reid didn't really run a tight ship when it came to discipline and accountability in Philly.
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Giants signed WR/KR/PR Trindon Holliday
He's the type of player that'll end up in Coughlin's doghouse. He's dynamic though, when he's not fumbling.
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He's the type of player that'll end up in Coughlin's doghouse. He's dynamic though, when he's not fumbling.
I doubt he makes the team. This type of pick up concerns me. It makes me think GM and coach are not on the same page. Which has always been a concern of mine. Reese giving square pegs for Coughlin to put in round holes.
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I wouldn't completely write off Marvin McNutt. I liked him as a poor man's Anquan Boldin coming out. He could be ok as the fourth option behind Olsen and two other wideouts.

I still have a man crush on Jerhico Cotchery, too. He's looking for a job.

Those two + a number one type in the draft + Greg Olsen at TE...not the worst receiving corps in the league.
Which would be worse than that?
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Which would be worse than that?
Assuming they get that starting-caliber draftee I mentioned...I'd take that group over the current groups for the Jags, Chiefs, Jets, Steelers, Titans, or Redskins.
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An impact rookie starter at receiver plus Cotchery would probably be an overall upgrade over 2013, minus maybe Ginn's deep threat (Ginn being the biggest loss may speak enough about our receiver situation). That being said, if said rookie takes a while to adapt or just busts in general, we'll be ******.
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I'm going to laugh my ass off when Gettleman takes the best DL available at 28
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way worse players out there than cotchery, guy is just the epitome of solid.

Steelers have a little urgency at WR, which is a good thing i think. As much as i want them to retain cotch, sanders needed to go, signing him is a commitment to mediocrity. Brown just had an amazing season, I imagine heath will be better and fully rehabbed to put up a season like his career best 2012, and they will almost certainly draft a WR with pick 1 (evans, lee, ebron) or 2(Moncrief, Robinson, Benjamin, matthews).

I look for Markus Wheaton to have a coming out party as well
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Agree about Cotchery. Every team in the league could use him especially if he'd take the veteran minimum.
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Jets made a mistake letting Cotchery go a few years ago, believe he wanted to stay and they pushed him out. Always have liked him as a player. Such a solid receiver.
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Assuming they get that starting-caliber draftee I mentioned...I'd take that group over the current groups for the Jags, Chiefs, Jets, Steelers, Titans, or Redskins.
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Yeah because Nate Washington, Kendall Wright, Justin Hunter and Delanie Walker are bad options...
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Agree about Cotchery. Every team in the league could use him especially if he'd take the veteran minimum.
He won't. Especially after snagging 10 TDs last season.
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Yeah because Nate Washington, Kendall Wright, Justin Hunter and Delanie Walker are bad options...
Kendall Wright is legit.

Nate Washington would be the fourth option on my hypothetical Panthers team and would be a #3 for you guys in an ideal world.

Justin Hunter was raw coming out (I liked him, though) and hasn't done anything to show that he's going to be an NFL player yet.

Delanie Walker should be a backup.

So, yeah. I think that's a bad group. It's Kendall Wright and nobody. It really needs that big #1 wideout (or even just a game-changing TE) that Kenny Britt was supposed to be (and that Justin Hunter might someday be).

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Raiders signed James Jones and Kevin Boothe today.

So they have lost:
Jared Veldheer
Lamarr Houston
Rashad Jennings
Vance Walker
Tracy Porter

Re-signed:
Darren McFadden
Usama Young

Signed:
Austin Howard
Justin Tuck
Lamarr Woodley
Antonio Smith
Tarrell Brown
James Jones
Kevin Boothe

Bungled:
Rodger Saffold Jr.

McKenzie seems to target 2 players a day. 1st day was Saffold/Howard. Next Justin Tuck/Woodley. Then Smith/Brown. Now Jones/Boothe.
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Kendall Wright is legit.

Nate Washington would be the fourth option on my hypothetical Panthers team and would be a #3 for you guys in an ideal world.

Justin Hunter was raw coming out (I liked him, though) and hasn't done anything to show that he's going to be an NFL player yet.

Delanie Walker should be a backup.

So, yeah. I think that's a bad group. It's Kendall Wright and nobody. It really needs that big #1 wideout (or even just a game-changing TE) that Kenny Britt was supposed to be (and that Justin Hunter might someday be).
Hunter has shown that he can do something in the NFL compared to McNutt. And Washington's and Cotchery's career numbers are very similar, with Washington's being slightly better.

Not arguing Olsen and Walker, because its clear who is better.

But even with a starting calibre draftee for Carolina and potentially signing Cotchery, now sure how its exactly better, unless Olsen really puts it over the top for you.
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Hunter has shown that he can do something in the NFL compared to McNutt. And Washington's and Cotchery's career numbers are very similar, with Washington's being slightly better.

Not arguing Olsen and Walker, because its clear who is better.

But even with a starting calibre draftee for Carolina and potentially signing Cotchery, now sure how its exactly better, unless Olsen really puts it over the top for you.
But at the same time, Olsen started 5 more games than Walker but only had 13 more catches and the same amount of TDs.
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But at the same time, Olsen started 5 more games than Walker but only had 13 more catches and the same amount of TDs.
And 245 more yards...
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But at the same time, Olsen started 5 more games than Walker but only had 13 more catches and the same amount of TDs.
If a position is not used in a team's first offensive or defensive snap of the game, no player at that position is credited with a start...even if that position is used on every single snap following.

Example: on 10/10 against the Giants, no Bears tight end is credited with a start, but Martellus Bennett had 6 catches for 68 yards, good for second on the team. He was on the field for most of the game. The first snap had a fullback and an extra tackle, so no tight ends were credited with a start...but 3 offensive tackles were.

Same for rotations. If your backup running back plays snap 1 and your bellcow plays snaps 2-60, your 1-snap backup gets the start...even if he gets zero carries and your main guy runs for 200 yards.

Games started are not a meaningful indicator of playing time. Only snap counts are.

...and catches/yards =/= skillz. Even if Walker had managed to get more than Olsen, Olsen would still be a better receiving option.

Also, I learned today that Titans fans have gone so long without an offense that they've become super proud of almost-average players like Nate Washington and Delanie Walker.

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Nate is a rock. Delaine is solid. Kendall Wright is a beast. Justin Hunter has elite talent. Mccluster does.. things. There are far worse cores in the league.
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Kendall Wright is legit.

Nate Washington would be the fourth option on my hypothetical Panthers team and would be a #3 for you guys in an ideal world.

Justin Hunter was raw coming out (I liked him, though) and hasn't done anything to show that he's going to be an NFL player yet.

Delanie Walker should be a backup.

So, yeah. I think that's a bad group. It's Kendall Wright and nobody. It really needs that big #1 wideout (or even just a game-changing TE) that Kenny Britt was supposed to be (and that Justin Hunter might someday be).
I wasn't sure if he was kidding or not with his statement. Titans definitely don't have world beaters.
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Nate is a rock. Delaine is solid. Kendall Wright is a beast. Justin Hunter has elite talent. Mccluster does.. things. There are far worse cores in the league.
McCluster is worthless aside from special teams.
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He was playing out of position, the team was a mess, the front of the defense was awful, he was probably mad (rightfully) they brought in Nnamdi. They didn't live up to the hype, they had a lameduck coach.

If there were ever circumstances that a player wouldn't give his all - it was a talented guy like DRC in that mess. Nnamdi was eating alone in his car at the time.

I'm not saying it's OK - what I'm saying is that those circumstances aren't going to happen in NY, and in ARI and DEN he was good, so...
He was only good for ONE year in Arizona: his rookie year, and that was the year Kurt Warner was having an MVP year and took them to the Super Bowl. Every other year in Arizona he graded out as one of the worst CBs in football.

The only other times he has played well were a.) the first 4 weeks of the 2012 season in Philly and b.) his contract year in Denver.

So basically, you're getting an otherwise terrible CB who has tried hard exactly three times in his NFL career despite being in the league since 2008.

Now, I respect Tom Coughlin as a coach, but I don't think that he's that much more of a miracle worker than Andy Reid so much so that he will suddenly get DRC to care about football 100% of the time, especially now that DRC has likely signed the last big contract of his NFL career and received his guaranteed money.
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He's adding two players to Carolina, one of which is a 1st or 2nd RD pick, and comparing it to the Tits current group as is. From someone outside looking in, I refuse take that as a slight, ya'll.

Besides, this will all be irrelevant when we draft Jordan Matthews!

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He was only good for ONE year in Arizona: his rookie year, and that was the year Kurt Warner was having an MVP year and took them to the Super Bowl. Every other year in Arizona he graded out as one of the worst CBs in football.
The man has a career 81 QB rating against, primarily playing man coverage against a top 2 receiver. Lets not dumb down the conversation by referencing PFF CB grades. Their #2 CB in 2012 didn't even make a team in 2013.
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