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Shaun will have his worst year of his career, because he has the Madden Curse may I present some evidence:
2004 Michael Vick (broken leg missed 13 games I believe)
2005 Ray Lewis (got banged up and had one of his worst seasons as a pro)
2006 Donovan McNabb (Falling out with TO, Injuries, terrible season)
thats just in the last 3 years, the years before that were also cursed.
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curses aren't real, and i'm a cubs fan
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You will find out this season that they are very real.
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Do you think the seahawks meant to lose Hutchinson? Oh no :P . The curse has already started.
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It actually has nothing to do with Madden. Most backs (90%) after they've had 375 carries or more one year, they falter the previous year, usually through injury, sometimes just fatigue and blowing it.
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07-14-2006, 01:59 PM
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Shaun will have his worst year of his career, because he has the Madden Curse may I present some evidence:
2004 Michael Vick (broken leg missed 13 games I believe)
2005 Ray Lewis (got banged up and had one of his worst seasons as a pro)
2006 Donovan McNabb (Falling out with TO, Injuries, terrible season)
thats just in the last 3 years, the years before that were also cursed.
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curses aren't real, and i'm a cubs fan
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You will find out this season that they are very real.
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Do you think the seahawks meant to lose Hutchinson? Oh no :P . The curse has already started.
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It actually has nothing to do with Madden. Most backs (90%) after they've had 375 carries or more one year, they falter the previous year, usually through injury, sometimes just fatigue and blowing it.
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I'm assuming you mean next. And if you add on the playoffs, that's anywhere from 60-90 more carries.
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07-14-2006, 02:26 PM
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Shaun will have his worst year of his career, because he has the Madden Curse may I present some evidence:
2004 Michael Vick (broken leg missed 13 games I believe)
2005 Ray Lewis (got banged up and had one of his worst seasons as a pro)
2006 Donovan McNabb (Falling out with TO, Injuries, terrible season)
thats just in the last 3 years, the years before that were also cursed.
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curses aren't real, and i'm a cubs fan
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You will find out this season that they are very real.
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Do you think the seahawks meant to lose Hutchinson? Oh no :P . The curse has already started.
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It actually has nothing to do with Madden. Most backs (90%) after they've had 375 carries or more one year, they falter the previous year, usually through injury, sometimes just fatigue and blowing it.
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True, but maybe the Madden curse has something to do with faltering, injuries, fatigue, blowing it, etc.
Explain then Michael Vick's season ending injury after being on the cover. That's pretty eerie.
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07-14-2006, 03:07 PM
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I think S.A. will put up 1200-1400 yards. The Football Outsiders has an interesting RB chart that shows how RBs drop off after having career years, with only a few exceptions. Couldn't find the link but someone linked it previously on NFDC.
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07-14-2006, 03:31 PM
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Sure Hutchinson will make an impact, but you got to look at other factors. At his age and point in his career, you have to look at Alexander's year as a career year, meaning that he was likely to drop off a bit anyway even if Hutch stayed around. I think (barring injury) that Alexander can put up 1400-1600 yards with 15-19 TD's, but I think him having a year like last year is totally out of the question.
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07-14-2006, 03:38 PM
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He's still gonna do good just not as good without Hutchinson, they still have Jones, Ashworth, Henry, and Gray.
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07-14-2006, 03:40 PM
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07-14-2006, 03:47 PM
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William Henry, but i forgot isn't Sean Locklear starting. and they also have Robbie Tobeck
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07-14-2006, 03:50 PM
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William Henry, but i forgot isn't Sean Locklear starting. and they also have Robbie Tobeck
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I was kinda being sarcastic...I know who William Henry is, he's camp fodder and won't even make the team. Ashworth isn't starting either.
(position and ranked from best to worst.)
LT- Jones
RT- Locklear
LG- Womack
C- Tobeck
RG- Gray
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07-14-2006, 05:02 PM
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Hot damn you guys need to calm the hell down. I remember an ESPN special on something of that sort. Chill out. Damn.
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07-14-2006, 05:11 PM
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He's got two curses going against him, Super Bowl Loser and Madden.
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
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07-14-2006, 06:15 PM
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Here's the real question. If both Alexander and the Seahawks bomb, who will win the NFC West? Arizona? St.Louis?
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07-14-2006, 07:33 PM
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
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you are seriously underrating how good Hutch is.
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07-14-2006, 09:15 PM
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He has so many bad things going for him, I would be surprised if he had a decent season
1) Tremendous load the year before, with well over 400 carries if you include the post-season
2) Loss of hutchinson
3) Year after signing a big contract
4) Superbowl losers
5) Madden curse
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Here's the real question. If both Alexander and the Seahawks bomb, who will win the NFC West? Arizona? St.Louis?
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I'd guess Arizona. New coach in St. Louis, and we know 49ers blow. I think both will have transition years.
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
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you are seriously underrating how good Hutch is.
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I know Hutch is a top 2 guard in the league, but to think one guard will have that much of an effect on a RB is crazy.
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07-14-2006, 11:53 PM
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
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perfectkey stated. He has his contract so i don't expect another vrecord breaking year but he will be among the best in the biz this year
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07-15-2006, 12:07 AM
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I expect something in the 1400-1600 range for Shaun Alexander this year, since all he's good for is running the ball. The loss of Hutchinson will have an impact on his numbers, but not a great enough impact to knock him out of the 100 YPG range.
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He will get around the normal yards like 1000-1200 but no where near what he got before.
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
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you are seriously underrating how good Hutch is.
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I know Hutch is a top 2 guard in the league, but to think one guard will have that much of an effect on a RB is crazy.
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He is going to have a effect on the whole damn offense. Watch and see.
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i dont see shaun doing any worse than 1450. but i dont see him doing any better than 1775.
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07-15-2006, 11:25 AM
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i dont see shaun doing any worse than 1450. but i dont see him doing any better than 1775.
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Total shocker there.
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07-15-2006, 11:29 AM
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i dont see shaun doing any worse than 1450. but i dont see him doing any better than 1775.
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better start praying.
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
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you are seriously underrating how good Hutch is.
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I know Hutch is a top 2 guard in the league, but to think one guard will have that much of an effect on a RB is crazy.
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He is going to have a effect on the whole damn offense. Watch and see.
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no not really.
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