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Old 07-18-2006, 11:48 AM    (permalink
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You can't JUST look at what they did last season....

Brooks has 1 Super Bowl and one defensive MVP is is a potential HOFer.

Keith Brooking does not have a resume like that.

But if I were a Falcon fan, I would probably take Hovan over Brooks too. Demorrio Williams is a badass. In fact, I would call the Falcon LB's better than the Bucs unit.
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You can't JUST look at what they did last season....

Brooks has 1 Super Bowl and one defensive MVP is is a potential HOFer.

Keith Brooking does not have a resume like that.

But if I were a Falcon fan, I would probably take Hovan over Brooks too. Demorrio Williams is a badass. In fact, I would call the Falcon LB's better than the Bucs unit.
I would take the ATL's LBers over ours too (right now, until Ruud develops). They are fast and underrated.

But I would rather have our DL and DBs (works better than ATLs for Cover 2, conversely theirs works much better for man-man coverage)
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That's probably it? Like saying Anthony Munoz is the best LT of all time, "but that's probably it."
You have really bad context issues. I'm talking about what he can do, not how good he is.
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That's probably it? Like saying Anthony Munoz is the best LT of all time, "but that's probably it."
You have really bad context issues. I'm talking about what he can do, not how good he is.
I took that in context as saying, "that is all he can do, he can't do anything else." It just seems a little demeaning.
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You three (S2C, Scar, and Shiver) need to be able to have a civilized debate. The three of you need to calm down, the two Falcons fans more-so than S2C. You do realized that people are entitled to their opinions, and yours isn't necessarily right, just because you say it is.
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I took that in context as saying, "that is all he can do, he can't do anything else." It just seems a little demeaning.
Exactly. And he's been great at it. That does NOT mean he's bad by saying he fits only as a WLB in a Tampa 2. It's not demeaning to say he can't play MLB or SLB, which is what I'm saying.
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You three (S2C, Scar, and Shiver) need to be able to have a civilized debate. The three of you need to calm down, the two Falcons fans more-so than S2C. You do realized that people are entitled to their opinions, and yours isn't necessarily right, just because you say it is.
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Go ahead and find one post where I treated S2C in a "un-civilized" fashion.
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You can't JUST look at what they did last season....

Brooks has 1 Super Bowl and one defensive MVP is is a potential HOFer.

Keith Brooking does not have a resume like that.

That's not the point. I said, the difference between the two isn't that big, for next year. Which is why Chris Hovan would be vastly a larger addition to the Falcons defense, in this (albeit stupid) hypothetical thread. Never did I ever say Brooking had a resume like Brooks does, that would be ignorant.
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Derrick Brooks by far.

Care to explain to me how Derrick Brooks will be better next year "by far."
Does not matter next year, because Brooks will be old. Derrick Brooks was WAY better then Brooking in his prime.
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I see nothing wrong in this thread, and I also see nothing wrong with a heated discussion.
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Brooks could lengthen his career if he switched inside. I think he has the ability to play mike.
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Brooks could lengthen his career if he switched inside. I think he has the ability to play mike.
Not when we drafted Barrett Ruud as the first ILB in the 2005 draft. Remember, Ruud was ahead of Thurmond and Tatupu in terms of ranking. Some think he was the best because there were concerns with Channing Crowder's character issues.

The kid has skill, he just hasn't been able to showcase it like the rest of the 2005 ILBs that had success as rookies. He has had to play behind Quarles who had a career year. A lot of people think he could be the starter coming out of training camp.
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Thurmond? his name is Odell Thurman
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Thurmond? his name is Odell Thurman
Wow you caught that he misspelled Odell Thurman's name, that proves your correct in your argument that Keith Brooking is better than Derrick Brooks. Seriously what is the point of correcting people on such trivial matters, I'm sure not everything you type is correct.
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Thurmond? his name is Odell Thurman
Wow you caught that he misspelled Odell Thurman's name, that proves your correct in your argument that Keith Brooking is better than Derrick Brooks. Seriously what is the point of correcting people on such trivial matters, I'm sure not everything you type is correct.
nope, i'm sick of this.

if you can't spell a guy's name right, you're clearly not qualified to talk about him. there's a vast difference between the 1,001 people who don't know the difference between lienhardt and leinart and the people who make an occasional typo.

the moral of the story is, if you don't even know his name, you probably shouldn't be talking about him in the first place.
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Thurmond? his name is Odell Thurman
Wow you caught that he misspelled Odell Thurman's name, that proves your correct in your argument that Keith Brooking is better than Derrick Brooks. Seriously what is the point of correcting people on such trivial matters, I'm sure not everything you type is correct.
it's the fifth time I have seen him call him Thurmond. There is no one in the NFL with the last name Thurmond and like njx said at least get the name right. it's like when people say Brookings, Kearney or Finnerman.
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Maybe if they were better players their names would be more recognizable...everyone knows how to spell Roethlisberger.
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90% of the people on here don't know how to spell Joe Jurevicius or Jeff Samardzija. My bad on the Thurman.

This is just Scar being nitpicky. "IF YOU SPELL ODELL THURMAN'S NAME WRONG AGAIN, YOU WILL BE CAST OUT INTO THE DAMNATIONS OF HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!"
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it's like when people say Brookings, Kearney or Finnerman.
Three ATL players, that's funny.

All Bucs players are easy to spell: RON-DE BAR-BER, DER-RICK BROOKS, SIM-E-ON RICE, CHRIS SIMMS, MICH-AEL CLAY-TON, CAD-IL-LAC WILL-IAMS...lol Hooked on Phonics NFL style.
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it's not like thurman is difficult. :roll:

additionally, samardzija's name comes up on google as a "did you mean" on the most common misspellings. as does jurevicius's.
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it's like when people say Brookings, Kearney or Finnerman.
Three ATL players, that's funny.

All Bucs players are easy to spell: RON-DE BAR-BER, DER-RICK BROOKS, SIM-E-ON RICE, CHRIS SIMMS, MICH-AEL CLAY-TON, CAD-IL-LAC WILL-IAMS...lol Hooked on Phonics NFL style.
3 ATL players that people can't get right yet the Buccs make it easy. their hardest name is Zemaitis.
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Brooks all the way, and its not just homerism.

When you have a guy who has not missed a game ever and started every game since his rookie season and does not look like slowing down porduction, how can you not pick him.
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