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Old 07-19-2006, 08:10 PM    (permalink
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Cutler is like a recently drafted version of Plummer. He doesn't know how to win, yet has good measureables.
You can't say that, Cutler did really have a great team around him and he played in the hardest conference in the NCAA.
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Cutler is like a recently drafted version of Plummer. He doesn't know how to win, yet has good measureables.
:?

i mean, he sure hasn't won any NFL games yet, but i always sort of figured you'd let a guy at least PLAY one before saying he can't win.
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:37 PM    (permalink
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Cutler is like a recently drafted version of Plummer. He doesn't know how to win, yet has good measureables.
some of the best QB of all time by your standards didnt know how to win....John Elway stanford had losing season all through his college carrer, Farve...losing College team...and Marino was on a losing team...


but you are right he is just like plummer...besides that he can throw about 30 yards farther, and is not half the scramble plummer is
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Definitely Jay Cutler. Plummer is getting up there in age.
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I voted Jay cause he is young and has lots of potential and Jake has shown his first great season and hes gettin old I mean if he wants to he could play a lot more like peyton who said he wanted to play like 16 years, I think jay will get better faster, but i can see jay coming out like Jake plummer.
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Jake Plummer in 2005 = Kordell Stewart in 2001. Next year he'll remind everyone who he really is.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:33 PM    (permalink
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Jake Plummer in 2005 = Kordell Stewart in 2001. Next year he'll remind everyone who he really is.
but Plummer has never sucked in Denver hence why the only QB with more wins over the time he has been in denver is Payton manning....
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Cutler is like a recently drafted version of Plummer. He doesn't know how to win, yet has good measureables.
some of the best QB of all time by your standards didnt know how to win....John Elway stanford had losing season all through his college carrer, Farve...losing College team...and Marino was on a losing team...


but you are right he is just like plummer...besides that he can throw about 30 yards farther, and is not half the scramble plummer is
Cutler has deceptive speed, he can scramble pretty well, but you're right that he's not on the same level as jake.
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Jake Plummer in 2005 = Kordell Stewart in 2001. Next year he'll remind everyone who he really is.

This doesn't make any sense to me.

Arizona;

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Denver;

60 Touchdowns
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Are you implying he's, unexpectedly, going to return to his Arizona days, with one of the best supporting casts in the NFL? :roll: :shock:
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Cutler and the Bears O scored enough points to win against GB.

Place blame where it belongs, on the Bears putrid defense.
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This topic reminded me that Jake Plummer has won more playoff games than Jay Cutler.
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Geez, when does the "If Jeff Hostetler played for the Patriots now he'd be a hall of famer" thread get bumped. Did that thread ever exist?
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I miss Jake Plummer.
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This topic reminded me that Jake Plummer has won more playoff games than Jay Cutler.
I think they each have one victory in the playoffs.
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I think they each have one victory in the playoffs.
He got a playoff win as a Cardinal I remember, that and the Bronco AFC Championship game run is 2 at least.
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Jake Plummer has played in six playoff games. He was good in exactly one of them, which was a loss. He does have two playoff wins. He played badly in both of them, but his defenses held his opponents to 7 points and 13 points in those games, so Jake Plummer = winnar!

This is why people who use QB W-L records for anything are just being a Mr. Sillypants.
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He got a playoff win as a Cardinal I remember, that and the Bronco AFC Championship game run is 2 at least.
That is right. I forgot his playoff win as a Cardinal.
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Definantly Cutler. Plumber like said is past his prime, and you dont build a team around a QB that will only be in the league for at least 3 years.

Cutler = Farve

Who wouldnt want to build around him (either one)? Cutler has the intangibles to be a good QB in the NFL.
I agree, if he doesn't miss 5 games, Chicago might be in the playoffs and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Plummer didn't have a pro arm but got by on his mobility, not the type of QB I'd want to build a franchise around.
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Huh? McCown played as good/better than Cutler ever did in those games. I doubt it would have changed anything.
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Jake the Snake was apart of one the greatest play calls ever.

Broncos were up on the Raiders by 3, in was near the end of the first half, Denver had the ball on there own 20 or so... What appeared to be a simple dive play to run out the clock. Turned into a bootleg to the right and a 80 yard TD to Rod Smith, it was insane. Not one Raider on defense knew that was coming. It was brilliant.
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Did someone really just bump a 7 year old thread?
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