NBA Discussion Thread - Page 106

RoyHall#1 · 06-03-2007, 01:45 PM

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I don't think it's a need as much as it's catering to its new big star. Come on, it's really a no-brainer if they can do it. Keep the big fella happy, maybe he stays longer, boosts Portland's team everyone's happy. It's not a knock against Jack but if you have the chance to get two guys with chemistry like those two why not do it?

Greg Oden will play his tail off even if he doesn't have Conley. He just expressed how much he loved playing with Conley and how he would love to keep doing it. If he loved it that much he and Conley could've stayed at OSU. Portland would have to give up quite a bit to get #3, they should just be happy with Oden and ODen should be happy with being the #1 pick. There's no need to make any blockbuster deals when you have the core of great players the Blazers do.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-03-2007, 01:46 PM

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ghettosermon u think u could post some play comparisons? thanks.

sure, I'll post that soon, and funny thing is Conley when interviewed just laughed about it and would rather not play with Oden. He said how Oden is his best friend but he has been in his shadow in high school and thought that the NBA could finally be the time when he could become his own player, but at the same time wouldn't be mad playing with him again.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-03-2007, 02:29 PM

Player Comparisons

We can all agree to disagree, but here are my player comparisons, very different from others on some players.

*Brandan Wright:Jerome Moiso, let's not downplay how great Moiso was coming out. I just see Wright falling into the same trap. Both were drooled upon by scouts because of size and athleticism but neither had great skills or overall body strength, many will disagree but the KG and Bosh comparisons IMO are rediculous.
*Jeff Green:Mix of Antawn Jamison and Ron Artest
*Al Horford:Nene
*Mike Conley Jr.:Tony Parker, Both are the same size, lightning quick, Parker too was a bad shooter coming in, both have an innate ability to finish inside with the big boys, and neither are amazing passers. Parker was not this aggressive on offense coming into the league.
*Joakim Noah:Anderson Varejao, both are idiots.
*Julian Wright:Marvin Williams
*Thaddeus Young:Tracy McGrady
*Acie Law: Damon Stoudemire
*Javarris Crittenton:Vonteego Cummings, this is Cummings as a prospect, I really do believe Crittenton will be the best PG in this class, I agree with Charm that he has a little Penny in him.
*Tiago Splitter: Daniel Santiago
*Morris Almond:Paul Pierce
*Marc Gasol-Rasho Nesterovic
*Aaron Brooks-John Lucas III/Bimbo Coles
*Gabe Pruitt:Steve Francis
*DJ Strawberry:Larry Hughes
*Jared Dudley:Ryan Gomes
*Taurean Green:Anthony Roberson
*Adam Haluska:Matt Carroll
*Ali Traore:Ronny Turiaf
*Sean Singletary:Terrell Brandon
*Dominic McGuire:Andre Iguodala
*Russell Carter:Rashad McCants

Gribble · 06-03-2007, 02:36 PM

Who would compare KG to Wright? I don't see that at all. What about Shawn Kemp?

06-03-2007, 02:38 PM

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Who would compare KG to Wright?

Optimists, pretty much thats it.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-03-2007, 02:40 PM

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Who would compare KG to Wright? I don't see that at all. What about Shawn Kemp?

Kemp was a joke right? I'm not good with sarcasm. And trust me hundreds have compared Wright to Garnett.

Gribble · 06-03-2007, 02:41 PM

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Optimists, pretty much thats it.

KG is much more perimeter oriented then Wright will ever be. Wright is a low post guy right now with few outside skills.

KCJ58 · 06-03-2007, 02:42 PM

who will be picked at #3?

i say ethier Wright or Horford

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-03-2007, 02:44 PM

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who will be picked at #3?

i say ethier Wright or Horford

It's down to Conley, Horford, Yi, probably in that order.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH · 06-03-2007, 02:45 PM

With all this talk about Shane Battier being moved, I'm really pissed as hell that we even got him! We gave up the #8 pick and Stromile Swift for this 10 ppg player... Rediculous! Now if we have him moved, that trade looks even more so like a robbery by Memphis. We should trade our #26 pick for Jarrett Jack, we needa PG!!!

Gribble · 06-03-2007, 02:48 PM

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With all this talk about Shane Battier being moved, I'm really pissed as hell that we even got him! We gave up the #8 pick and Stromile Swift for this 10 ppg player... Rediculous! Now if we have him moved, that trade looks even more so like a robbery by Memphis. We should trade our #26 pick for Jarrett Jack, we needa PG!!!

He does a lot of stuff that doesn't show up in the box score. Plus, he's not gonna get a lot of shots with Yao and McGrady there.

Vikes99ej · 06-03-2007, 05:29 PM

If the Wolves take a guard I'm going to be pissed.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-03-2007, 05:53 PM

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If the Wolves take a guard I'm going to be pissed.

If Conley is there you have to consider although it is very unlikely, but a starting lineup of Conley, Foye, Craig Smith, KG, and Mark Blount aint too bad. I actually think although some would call it a reach, Javaris Crittenton would be the perfect pick. At 6-5 he is the perfect sized PG to pair with the undersized Foye. Although if a Jeff Green or Julian Wright is there it would be a great pick, I really love Craig Smith and think they are better off going PG in Crittenton or C in Horford obviously if he drops but more likely Spencer Hawes.

Flyboy · 06-03-2007, 05:59 PM

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He does a lot of stuff that doesn't show up in the box score. Plus, he's not gonna get a lot of shots with Yao and McGrady there.

Bingo. He did more for our team than Stro/*** could even imagine to do last season.

derza222 · 06-03-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gribble

KG is much more perimeter oriented then Wright will ever be. Wright is a low post guy right now with few outside skills.

Wright really scares me. For a tall, long, athletic low post guy with not many skills outside, he has very little bulk on him. If he was really tough and intense on the court it would be one thing, but I really could see him getting pushed around big time in the league.

Vikes99ej · 06-03-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

If Conley is there you have to consider although it is very unlikely, but a starting lineup of Conley, Foye, Craig Smith, KG, and Mark Blount aint too bad. I actually think although some would call it a reach, Javaris Crittenton would be the perfect pick. At 6-5 he is the perfect sized PG to pair with the undersized Foye. Although if a Jeff Green or Julian Wright is there it would be a great pick, I really love Craig Smith and think they are better off going PG in Crittenton or C in Horford obviously if he drops but more likely Spencer Hawes.

I assume you have given up on Rashad McCants, then. I still think he maybe has a future as a SG. I would love to get Horford, Green, or Wright. We need a good PF/C.

Gribble · 06-03-2007, 09:52 PM

I think the Foye drafting consigned McCants to an off the bench role.

Vikes99ej · 06-03-2007, 09:54 PM

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I think the Foye drafting consigned McCants to an off the bench role.

I don't know... I saw McCants and Foye play together several times. I guess I didn't realize how quickly teams give up on first round draft picks in the NBA.

Gribble · 06-03-2007, 09:57 PM

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I don't know... I saw McCants and Foye play together several times. I guess I didn't realize how quickly teams give up on first round draft picks in the NBA.

Luke Jackson is a good example.

Vikes99ej · 06-03-2007, 09:59 PM

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Luke Jackson is a good example.

Wasn't he draft by the Cavs?

Gribble · 06-03-2007, 10:03 PM

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Wasn't he draft by the Cavs?

Top ten pick. I don't know if he ever played for them.

Vikes99ej · 06-03-2007, 10:06 PM

Let's see.

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Luke Ryan Jackson (born November 6, 1981 in Eugene, Oregon), is an American professional basketball player for the Toronto Raptors. The tenth overall pick in the 2004 NBA Draft by the Cleveland Cavaliers, Jackson has thus far spent most of his career on the injured list with knee tendinitis and back spasms.

Thank you, Wikipedia!!!

Eagles own the NFC East · 06-03-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Player Comparisons

We can all agree to disagree, but here are my player comparisons, very different from others on some players.

*Brandan Wright:Jerome Moiso, let's not downplay how great Moiso was coming out. I just see Wright falling into the same trap. Both were drooled upon by scouts because of size and athleticism but neither had great skills or overall body strength, many will disagree but the KG and Bosh comparisons IMO are rediculous.
*Jeff Green:Mix of Antawn Jamison and Ron Artest
*Al Horford:Nene
*Mike Conley Jr.:Tony Parker, Both are the same size, lightning quick, Parker too was a bad shooter coming in, both have an innate ability to finish inside with the big boys, and neither are amazing passers. Parker was not this aggressive on offense coming into the league.
*Joakim Noah:Anderson Varejao, both are idiots.
*Julian Wright:Marvin Williams
*Thaddeus Young:Tracy McGrady
*Acie Law: Damon Stoudemire
*Javarris Crittenton:Vonteego Cummings, this is Cummings as a prospect, I really do believe Crittenton will be the best PG in this class, I agree with Charm that he has a little Penny in him.
*Tiago Splitter: Daniel Santiago
*Morris Almond:Paul Pierce
*Marc Gasol-Rasho Nesterovic
*Aaron Brooks-John Lucas III/Bimbo Coles
*Gabe Pruitt:Steve Francis
*DJ Strawberry:Larry Hughes
*Jared Dudley:Ryan Gomes
*Taurean Green:Anthony Roberson
*Adam Haluska:Matt Carroll
*Ali Traore:Ronny Turiaf
*Sean Singletary:Terrell Brandon
*Dominic McGuire:Andre Iguodala
*Russell Carter:Rashad McCants

Nice thanks they are very good imo. What about for Oden and Durant and Yi Jianlian?

Sniper · 06-03-2007, 11:28 PM

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Nice thanks they are very good imo. What about for Oden and Durant and Yi Jianlian?

Durant-Jesus.

Sorry, got a little out of control there. I say Durant is a hybrid between Marion and Garnett.

Flyboy · 06-03-2007, 11:41 PM

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Durant-Jesus.

Sorry, got a little out of control there. I say Durant is a hybrid between Marion and Garnett.

Durant is a more athletic Dirk at least.. in my opinion.