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Old 07-30-2006, 03:21 PM    (permalink
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"REBECCA: I've got a hot tip for you. I heard some people talking on the plane about Barry Bonds, who plays for the San Diego Giants--

DAN: The San Francisco Giants.

REBECCA: Right.

DAN: What about him?

REBECCA: They say he's good.

DAN: He is good.

REBECCA: They say the San Francisco Giants are
gonna be a good team.

DAN: They will, but not this year.

REBECCA: What about Barry Bonds?

DAN: Unfortunately, the rules prohibit Barry Bonds from batting before and after himself and he probably can't play right field and pitch at the same time."
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The point is Manning can't do it by himself, don't get the reference.
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:22 PM    (permalink
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I'll take Peyton Manning. Honestly, he hasn't choked a whole lot, and against any team not in a 3-4, he dominates. You add another coach on the field, he can read defenses like no other.

As a Steeler fan, with our defense and O-line, I think Peyton would def. take us to a Super Bowl. I love Ben, don't get me wrong, but he scares me beyond belief. Peyton IS the best QB in the NFL. Brady is right up there, and one of my favorite players (despite his Michigan ties,) but he doesn't command the on field presence that Manning has. People say Peyton chokes, but his defense has choked too, so had Dungy and the coaching staff. It's not on Peyton, he is #1.
Yes, he has. Sure he wont choke in the regular seasom but he's choked 3 straight year's in the playoffs.
how did he choke this year? the offensive line played like crap. it wasnt mannings fault
People assume because the Colts lost Manning crumbled under the pressure and was awful. 90 QB rating just aren't what they used to be. :roll:
he had 104 this year
I'm talking about the playoff game vs the Steelers.
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:23 PM    (permalink
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I'll take Peyton Manning. Honestly, he hasn't choked a whole lot, and against any team not in a 3-4, he dominates. You add another coach on the field, he can read defenses like no other.

As a Steeler fan, with our defense and O-line, I think Peyton would def. take us to a Super Bowl. I love Ben, don't get me wrong, but he scares me beyond belief. Peyton IS the best QB in the NFL. Brady is right up there, and one of my favorite players (despite his Michigan ties,) but he doesn't command the on field presence that Manning has. People say Peyton chokes, but his defense has choked too, so had Dungy and the coaching staff. It's not on Peyton, he is #1.
Yes, he has. Sure he wont choke in the regular seasom but he's choked 3 straight year's in the playoffs.
how did he choke this year? the offensive line played like crap. it wasnt mannings fault
People assume because the Colts lost Manning crumbled under the pressure and was awful. 90 QB rating just aren't what they used to be. :roll:
he had 104 this year
I'm talking about the playoff game vs the Steelers.
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I'll take the best QB on this list, Peyton Manning.

Daunte can't even get on the list, not even over Brees?
6 TDs, 12 INTs in his first 7 games without Randy Moss. Then he sends his knee through a meat slicer. Not a good thing...
That is weak. The Vikings OL and defense was horrible. Add to that he didn't hate Nate Burleson, his top receiver from the year before. I don't see many people succeeding in that situation, except Tom Brady, because apparently he can throw to himself, and block, and play defense. :roll:

And explain how the year before Culpepper's stats when you take Moss out is 3950 yards and 26 TDs. Moss had very little effect the year before, but Culpepper had his best year. Interesting?
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"REBECCA: I've got a hot tip for you. I heard some people talking on the plane about Barry Bonds, who plays for the San Diego Giants--

DAN: The San Francisco Giants.

REBECCA: Right.

DAN: What about him?

REBECCA: They say he's good.

DAN: He is good.

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gonna be a good team.

DAN: They will, but not this year.

REBECCA: What about Barry Bonds?

DAN: Unfortunately, the rules prohibit Barry Bonds from batting before and after himself and he probably can't play right field and pitch at the same time."
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The point is Manning can't do it by himself, don't get the reference.
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The whole "teams win rings" argument is overrated. Teams put up stats too. Do you think Tom Brady would've won that Super Bowl without a defense or running game? Do you think Peyton Manning would put up record stats if his defense didn't keep him on the field more? Would he get all those TD if he had crappy receivers? What if he had no OL and a bad running game? Would he still put up amazing stats? The fact of the matter is that Brady was the biggest part of the Pats winning two of the three Super Bowl, and a very large part of the last one. Does Vinatieri get to attempt those FG if Brady doesn't lead the team down the field? Teams have just as much importance on the stats a QB puts up as they do the games they win. While Brady comes to play in the big games, Manning comes to throw INT.
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Ben Roethlisberger. Not only is he becoming a great QB but he can also tackle.

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First of all; it's PEyton Manning.

Second of all; it's obviously Tom Brady, it just cannot be anybody else.
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He is not only a terrific QB, he's by far the most clutch.
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Because he's lead two game winning drives in the Super Bowl.
Peyton Manning has never been put in a position like that so you cant say that puts brady ahead of manning. peyton manning did the same thing against the steelers in the playoffs except he had Mike Vanderjagt and not Adam Vinatieri
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He is not only a terrific QB, he's by far the most clutch.
what makes you say peyton manning isnt clutch?
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im trying really hard to be not a homer here(with the listed qb's i dont think i would vote for favre, but still), but why isnt favre there? and drew and jake are? maybe drew is better then i think he is, same for jake, but i would take favre over them two in a heart beat. maybe he doesnt apply to this or i am not getting something here?
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im trying really hard to be not a homer here(with the listed qb's i dont think i would vote for favre, but still), but why isnt favre there? and drew and jake are? maybe drew is better then i think he is, same for jake, but i would take favre over them two in a heart beat. maybe he doesnt apply to this or i am not getting something here?
cuz favre had a terrible year last year.
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im trying really hard to be not a homer here(with the listed qb's i dont think i would vote for favre, but still), but why isnt favre there? and drew and jake are? maybe drew is better then i think he is, same for jake, but i would take favre over them two in a heart beat. maybe he doesnt apply to this or i am not getting something here?
Brett this year and last didnt show too me he was still a massive influence on the field and i would want all the prior too lead my team before him at this current time
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alright thanks for clearing that up, i thought this was some kind of all-time-this-generation of qb's. like no matter how old they are now, but like how good they were throughout their time in the league. if that makes sense

i voted for brady anyway
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alright thanks for clearing that up, i thought this was some kind of all-time-this-generation of qb's. like no matter how old they are now, but like how good they were throughout their time in the league. if that makes sense

i voted for brady anyway
if im around then ill do this next year, as a season can change alot
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should i run the poll for a day? or 2 days?
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should i run the poll for a day? or 2 days?
if its close 2 days, if its a blowout after one day then stop it.
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should i run the poll for a day? or 2 days?
if its close 2 days, if its a blowout after one day then stop it.
i was thinking that
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Tom Brady...All he needs to do is put up his hand with 3 SB Rings and that's my answer.

Peyton Manning is the best All-Around QB in the NFL, but until he wins a "big game," I'm going with Brady.

I hope Peyton isn't the next Marino, great QB that doesn't get a SB.

agreed, I think Brady would put up great # also with Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.


I would hope Peyton could win a ring
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Just so you know...polls don't work. You're gonna see an unusual amount of votes for Drew Bledsoe....just a hunch.
hmm zero so far. Perhaps everyone's Cowboy homer conspiracies are just a bit off...
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Just so you know...polls don't work. You're gonna see an unusual amount of votes for Drew Bledsoe....just a hunch.
hmm zero so far. Perhaps everyone's Cowboy homer conspiracies are just a bit off...
or they cant bring themselves too be that homerish
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