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Old 08-16-2006, 09:41 PM    (permalink
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Is he an above average QB? No. Because I can easily think of 15 other Quarterbacks I would rather have.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:20 PM    (permalink
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Is he an above average QB? No. Because I can easily think of 15 other Quarterbacks I would rather have.
Really? I thought that after this rookie season he was already an above average NFL QB. Now you've just ruined my day.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:53 PM    (permalink
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yo material issues, you're getting way to defensive about everything... we haven't really seen him as a true NFL starter so no one can really know if he's good or bad... we saw a bit of him last year (with no weapons) and he was a rookie... this year is the test whether he's a above average qb or not...
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:56 PM    (permalink
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yo material issues, you're getting way to defensive about everything... we haven't really seen him as a true NFL starter so no one can really know if he's good or bad... we saw a bit of him last year (with no weapons) and he was a rookie... this year is the test whether he's a above average qb or not...
I definately agree it''s just that comments like the one above irritate me as they are as unwarranted as would be the comment "He's going to be a for sure Hall of Famer."
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:58 PM    (permalink
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He should have a good year depending if all of his stay healthy like Winslow.
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:13 PM    (permalink
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yo material issues, you're getting way to defensive about everything... we haven't really seen him as a true NFL starter so no one can really know if he's good or bad... we saw a bit of him last year (with no weapons) and he was a rookie... this year is the test whether he's a above average qb or not...
I definately agree it''s just that comments like the one above irritate me as they are as unwarranted as would be the comment "He's going to be a for sure Hall of Famer."
yeh... a thread should be started about Frye a few weeks in, then we can actually have a "smart" conversation about him.... right now everything is up in the air...
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Old 08-17-2006, 11:27 PM    (permalink
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yo material issues, you're getting way to defensive about everything... we haven't really seen him as a true NFL starter so no one can really know if he's good or bad... we saw a bit of him last year (with no weapons) and he was a rookie... this year is the test whether he's a above average qb or not...
I definately agree it''s just that comments like the one above irritate me as they are as unwarranted as would be the comment "He's going to be a for sure Hall of Famer."
yeh... a thread should be started about Frye a few weeks in, then we can actually have a "smart" conversation about him.... right now everything is up in the air...
yeah now all we have are his tools and 2006 poise to judge him on.
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Is he an above average QB? No. Because I can easily think of 15 other Quarterbacks I would rather have.
Really? I thought that after this rookie season he was already an above average NFL QB. Now you've just ruined my day.

I wasn't basing my conclusion off just his rookie season.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:29 AM    (permalink
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Give him time and surround him with talent and he'll be a good one. Might make a pro bowl or two kinda like Jake Delhomme or Marc Bulger except potentially better.

He certainly has all the intangeables

Kellen Winslow/Tight End
Braylon Edwards/Wide Reciever
Rueben Droughns/Halfback
Joe Jurivicious/Wide Reciever

That is enough weapons :D
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i feel bad for him though, because he doesn't have a good line in front of him... namely the center position...
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I think Alex Smith is gonna be a major bust considering he's one a team thats not going any where, any time soon.
and like the Raiders are going any where with Aaron Brooks,
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Not throwing passes into tripple coverage to Northcutt like that.
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i feel bad for him though, because he doesn't have a good line in front of him... namely the center position...
Just for this year though.
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i feel bad for him though, because he doesn't have a good line in front of him... namely the center position...
Just for this year though.
Yeah, Center will be fine next year. I think the line could play well, they have potential to be good IMO.
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Old 08-19-2006, 09:57 AM    (permalink
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up and comers like Ben, Eli, and soon to be Cutler, Leinart and Quinn who will pretty much make up the top tier of qbs of the future.
Ben and Eli I can understand but your throwing 2 rookies and a kid that hasnt even been drafted yet into that category? ? ?
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