Which NFC east has the BEST offensive unit as a whole?

[SeanTaylorRIP]

HERE'S MY TAKE ON YOUR RANKINGS

Originally Posted by Number 10

Alright I will give my positional rankings for the NFC East

---QB
1-Eagles
2a-Giants
2b-Cowboys
4-Redskins
I would just have Giants 2 alone, Eli over Bledsoe and Romo anyday, although behind Eli there isn't any depth at all.
---RB

1-Giants
2-Redskins
3-Cowboys
4-Eagles
Tiki Barber, Brandon Jacobs, Jim Finn. Clinton Portis, T.J. Duckett, Ladell Betts, Mike Sellers, skins take RB for sure.
---WR

1-Cowboys
2a-Redskins
2b-Giants
4-Eagles
Pretty much agree here, although without TO Cowboys drop bellow the Skins and Giants. Actually even with TO I would have a 3 way tie with the Skins and Giants having a slight edge over the boys because even with TO you know something during the season is gonna happen.
---TE

1-Giants
2-Cowboys
3-Redkins
4-Eagles
My personal opinion I would have Witten over Shockey but I'm ok with these ratings.
---OL

1-Redskins
2-Giants
3-Eagles
4-Cowboys
Giants O-Line shouldn't be #2.
---DE

1-Giants
2-Eagles
3-Redskins
4-Cowboys
Obvious Giants have top DE' with 4 studs.
---DT/NT

1-Redskins
2-Eagles
3-Cowboys
4-Giants
Happy to see someone like the interior tandem of pro bowl caliber Cornelius Griffin and Salavea, although Eagles would be my #1.
---OLB

1-Cowboys
2-Giants
3-Redskins
4-Eagles
Yeah, but LaVar is probably gonna suck although Antonio Pierce is the man, but Marcus Washington and Rocky Mcintosh are nothing to sleep on.
---MLB/ILB

1-Giants
2-Cowboys
3-Eagles
4-Redskins
Eagles should be #1 Trotter is better than Pierce.
---CB

1-Eagles
2-Cowboys
3-Redskins
4-Giants
I agree with these rankings.
---S

1-Redskins
2-Giants
3-Eagles
4-Cowboys
Safety Rankings are way off, Giants are in last place in terms of safeties. Skins and Eagles 1a and 1B, Cowboys next with Roy Williams, and Giants #2, Cmon. For everyone who says Adam Archuleta sucks in coverage Will Demps is horrible in coverage, he's nice on the run but with Baltimore he was getting burned deep all day, he always left Rolle and Reed on an island alone.
---K

1-Eagles
2a-Giants
2b-Redskins
4-Cowboys
I would have Vanderjagt over John Hall anyday, please skins sign a new kicker!
---P

1-Giants
2-Cowboys
3-Redskins
4-Eagles
Derrick Frost is crap, I hate him so I will gladly accept the skins being 4th.
---Return Game

1-Eagles
2-Giants
3-Cowboys
4-Redskins
This is how the rankings should really go for return game:
1)Redskins
2)Cowboys
3)Eagles
4)Giants:Chad Morton is horrible now.

[DMWSackMachine]

Not to be an ass or anything, but the topic of the thread is the best OFFENSE in the division. We have already had a huge thread devoted to these different defensive arguments, most of which ended up playing out the same way that this thread has started to turn in the last page or so. Is it just me, or isn't this what we have mods for?

[draftguru151]

Originally Posted by DMWSackMachine

Not to be an ass or anything, but the topic of the thread is the best OFFENSE in the division. We have already had a huge thread devoted to these different defensive arguments, most of which ended up playing out the same way that this thread has started to turn in the last page or so. Is it just me, or isn't this what we have mods for?

:? A thread doesn't need to be locked if the subject is changed.

[eacantdraft]

The Giants have the best offensive unit. The most balanced. Eli still has a way to go before he equals his big brother or Big Ben.

Washington had trouble scoring last season. Philadelphia is very one dimentional on offense. Dallas has Drew Bledsoe, enough said.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by eacantdraft

The Giants have the best offensive unit. The most balanced. Eli still has a way to go before he equals his big brother or Big Ben.

Washington had trouble scoring last season. Philadelphia is very one dimentional on offense. Dallas has Drew Bledsoe, enough said.

What does that even mean?

As for Eli, his accuracy has not improved according to TC stories and watching him in Preseason, I think he is going to be exposed this year.

[Dillen]

I dont understand why everyone thinks the Eagles are so one dimensional and REFUSE to call running plays. Under Andy Reid, the Eagles offense has always been about 55% pass, 45% run except last year.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

It's yet to be seen if Westbrook can hold up as an all down back like Deuce Staley did.

[Dillen]

Duce wasnt a guy who never got injured. He was injured quite a bit prior to 2003 when the Eagles used 3 RBs.

The Eagles have 4 guys that will run the ball, 5 if you include McNabb. An injury to Westbrook would hurt definitely, but he isnt completely irreplacable.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

What does that even mean?

As for Eli, his accuracy has not improved according to TC stories and watching him in Preseason, I think he is going to be exposed this year.

Huh? All camp reports indicate he's dramatically improved his accuracy. And outside the Jets game, he's shown it in PS as well. In fact, his completion % wouldve been around 60% against the Jets had it not been for

1. 2 dropped passes
2. A catch and fumble by Burress that they ruled incomplete
3. A pass off his WR's hands into a DB's for an INT

[bigbluedefense]

The eagles will be much more effective running the ball this year compared to last year. They still won't run as much as they should, but it will be improved.

They got LJ, Westbrook, and now Stallworth in the pass game coupled with McNabb's feet.

And if you haven't noticed...theyve been kicking a$$ in PS.

DO NOT sleep on the Eagles...this team is hungry to prove everyone wrong. And they got their swagger back.

[Number 10]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

What does that even mean?

As for Eli, his accuracy has not improved according to TC stories and watching him in Preseason, I think he is going to be exposed this year.

Which TC stories have you heard? Eli's accuracy in numbers this year shattered his accuracy numbers in last year's training camp.

[M.O.T.H.]

Well, I've heard differently about Eli, I've heard at times he has looked sharp but, accuracy wise he looks about the same or a little better than last year. The odd thing is, every Giant report about him says he's much improved but, then you go outside of that and other scouts are saying he looks exactly the same and he tends to stare certain guys down. I personally believe Eli, is the most overrated QB in the NFL, I do however believe he will be phenominal one day. I guess you could say the jury is still out on him for this year, Giants say one thing and NFC East scouts say something else, I guess we will see as the regular season comes around.

[Number 10]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Well, I've heard differently about Eli, I've heard at times he has looked sharp but, accuracy wise he looks about the same or a little better than last year. The odd thing is, every Giant report about him says he's much improved but, then you go outside of that and other scouts are saying he looks exactly the same and he tends to stare certain guys down. I personally believe Eli, is the most overrated QB in the NFL, I do however believe he will be phenominal one day. I guess you could say the jury is still out on him for this year, Giants say one thing and NFC East scouts say something else, I guess we will see as the regular season comes around.

I would like to hear where these reports are coming from. The Giants keep a recording on every single pass thrown in camp and Eli's numbers accuracy wise were far and away better, not a little better.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by Number 10

I would like to hear where these reports are coming from. The Giants keep a recording on every single pass thrown in camp and Eli's numbers accuracy wise were far and away better, not a little better.

I think what they mean is, Eli will look like a pro bowler one day and then the next day in camp he will be inconsistant again. Perhaps this is why they believe he is a little better, thats all I can think of. I have heard stories of how some days in camp Eli looks downright amazing and somedays he stuggled. So, perhaps some scouts outside of the Giants have a difficult time making a fair assessment on him.

I guess I'll agree with you in saying his accuracy has improved because, it seems as though the good reports out weigh the bad but, i'm still far from sold on Eli.

[cunningham06]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

The eagles will be much more effective running the ball this year compared to last year. They still won't run as much as they should, but it will be improved.

They got LJ, Westbrook, and now Stallworth in the pass game coupled with McNabb's feet.

And if you haven't noticed...theyve been kicking a$$ in PS.

DO NOT sleep on the Eagles...this team is hungry to prove everyone wrong. And they got their swagger back.

SHHHHH!!! Don't clue people into the fact that the Eagles outscored the Superbowl Champions in the first half when the starters were actually playing without their starting RB. I want to see this team surprise people.

[Go_Eli]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

Well, I've heard differently about Eli, I've heard at times he has looked sharp but, accuracy wise he looks about the same or a little better than last year. The odd thing is, every Giant report about him says he's much improved but, then you go outside of that and other scouts are saying he looks exactly the same and he tends to stare certain guys down. I personally believe Eli, is the most overrated QB in the NFL, I do however believe he will be phenominal one day. I guess you could say the jury is still out on him for this year, Giants say one thing and NFC East scouts say something else, I guess we will see as the regular season comes around.

Redskin, Cowboy, or Eagles fans telling you that?

And btw...who exactly is overrating Eli Manning? Knowledge Giant fans aren't, knowledge NFL fans, and the media sure aren't. So who exactly is?

[DMWSackMachine]

Originally Posted by Go_Eli

Redskin, Cowboy, or Eagles fans telling you that?

And btw...who exactly is overrating Eli Manning? Knowledge Giant fans aren't, knowledge NFL fans, and the media sure aren't. So who exactly is?

Go_Eli everyone! Everyone give him a round of applause!


.....In unrelated knews, reports out of Jersey have a pot calling a kettle black.....

[bigbluedefense]

How on Earth has Dallas's Poll results skyrocketed? They were a distant 3rd just like 2 hours ago...now they have the most votes? How did that happen in a span of 2 hours?

[Ward]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

How on Earth has Dallas's Poll results skyrocketed? They were a distant 3rd just like 2 hours ago...now they have the most votes? How did that happen in a span of 2 hours?

Polls here can be easily manipulated.

[Number 10]

Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.

I think what they mean is, Eli will look like a pro bowler one day and then the next day in camp he will be inconsistant again. Perhaps this is why they believe he is a little better, thats all I can think of. I have heard stories of how some days in camp Eli looks downright amazing and somedays he stuggled. So, perhaps some scouts outside of the Giants have a difficult time making a fair assessment on him.

I guess I'll agree with you in saying his accuracy has improved because, it seems as though the good reports out weigh the bad but, i'm still far from sold on Eli.

So what you're saying is that he is a young QB that is still progressing? Isn't exactly anything new. Of course he is going to have his good games, and then everyone will jump on his banwagon, and then he will have his bad games, where everyone call him a bust.

Point remains, to say he has not improved in training camp is bogus and either you made that up or someone who told you that made it up. Facts are, he had a much better camp this year than last year and he should improve his numbers this season in comparison to last season.

[Number 10]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

How on Earth has Dallas's Poll results skyrocketed? They were a distant 3rd just like 2 hours ago...now they have the most votes? How did that happen in a span of 2 hours?

You honestly couldn't figure out how?

[Ward]

I imagine the coward Texico (who's been deleted) is responsible. He bragged to me about have 50+ accounts. So if there's any poll that's ridiculously Cowboy favored, blame that coward.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by Go_Eli

Redskin, Cowboy, or Eagles fans telling you that?

And btw...who exactly is overrating Eli Manning? Knowledge Giant fans aren't, knowledge NFL fans, and the media sure aren't. So who exactly is?

Are you kidding? Eli is so grossly overrated it is ridiculous now, there are even so called experts out there that say he is better than Peyton. It's a joke, he has not done anything to show that he is a top QB except throw for a lot of yards and the only reason he did that was because he had Plax catching all his high passes and Tiki catching screens and swings all game. If he didnt have Plax, he wouldnt have thrown for 50% last year and yet some how he is mentioned in the top tier of Qb's now, it doesnt make any sense. Eli, is also terribly overrated among Giants fans on this board, how you can rank him higher than Mccnabb or Bledsoe? You take Bledsoe's and Manning's numbers from last year, all Eli has on him is yards and it's not by many. Eventhough Bledsoe has the additions of a brand new line and arguably the best WR in the league ,T.O., Giants fans will still rank Eli higher :? not very logical at all.

[cunningham06]

Originally Posted by Ward

I imagine the coward Texico (who's been deleted) is responsible. He bragged to me about have 50+ accounts. So if there's any poll that's ridiculously Cowboy favored, blame that coward.

ahh that explains why all of the all nfldc player teams were so favored towards the Cowboys. Oh well, I had already had enough of his Who's the Best Player in [insert franchise] history? topics.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

How on Earth has Dallas's Poll results skyrocketed? They were a distant 3rd just like 2 hours ago...now they have the most votes? How did that happen in a span of 2 hours?

Same thing happened when we were doing that all NFLDC team for LG. Larry Allen was last and then in like a minute he got 20 votes out of knowhere.