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Old 09-13-2006, 10:13 PM    (permalink
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I know you guys are harping a lot on the transition from RT to LT, but I think the fact that he was never able to beat out below average Barry Sims for the LT job says a lot.
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I know you guys are harping a lot on the transition from RT to LT, but I think the fact that he was never able to beat out below average Barry Sims for the LT job says a lot.
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I wouldn’t use the word bust he has allowed 6 sacks in 2 seasons this is his 3rd season and his 3rd O-line coach his 2nd head coach and has played Guard and RT and is now finally playing LT and needs to learn all over again..

He is having a bad preseason that’s true but I wouldn’t label him a bust just yet.
you also need to put in the 20 false starts
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Raiders tend to get the ****** end of the stick with there number 2 picks .... remember Darrell Russell he was a number 2 pick after Orlando Pace and he was such a bust and from the looks after this MN Game gallery plus the whole teams offense of line is a bust. Raiders should leave it up to this year if Gallery doesnt pan out half way as expected trade him before he doesnt accquire anymore value at all. Oh well im slowly getting used to the raiders suckin as long as i remember since the 90s even alot of those late 90 years they sucked and time and time they suck now too....exception of the Gruden Years which were short lived. Sometimes hard for me to beleive that as long Al is under control of this team the raiders really wont ever find there glory that they had back in the 70s 80s. I hope im wrong though....
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I wouldnt say he is a bust. Becuase he is good enough to start. However he was not the Left Tackle franchise player everyone expected. He will be a RT starter
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he kept under hist expactions, he will be nothing special, no future hall of famer as i predicted.
What a stupid comment. :?
why ? time is running , they gave him a lot of credit and predict him to be a ( sure ) future hall of famer , well at this point he is far away from it , he isnt really awful but he should start handling D-Line men and should use his "ultra" technique , he is soft , so was jeff faine and i predict so will be d´brick. in these days the maulers on OT have the better games.
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He's not a bust he has switched back and forth at postions, we gotta give him some time. He was pitiful Monday night he basically said come on in Merriman sack the quarterback.
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he kept under hist expactions, he will be nothing special, no future hall of famer as i predicted.
What a stupid comment. :?
why ? time is running , they gave him a lot of credit and predict him to be a ( sure ) future hall of famer , well at this point he is far away from it , he isnt really awful but he should start handling D-Line men and should use his "ultra" technique , he is soft , so was jeff faine and i predict so will be d´brick. in these days the maulers on OT have the better games.
While D'Brick may not be a mauler, he is a much better technician than Gallery is.
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Im still sticking to my guns and giving him this season to prove himself. But I did notice one thing that should be of major concern.

He is out of shape. He's fat, slow, and lacking strength now. He doesn't look like the Gallery that came out of college, no way. I think his work ethic has gone to the toilet since he joined Oakland, and because of that he is not producing. I blame that on Gallery, and also the Raiders. They just have a bad organization right now from top to bottom. Poor coaching and poor attitude will rub off on players, and it seems like Gallery got complacent once the check came in the mail. Im still holding out hope, but it doesn't look good right now. Im still gonna give him till the end of the year though.

And having a real coach might help him out too...
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Im still sticking to my guns and giving him this season to prove himself. But I did notice one thing that should be of major concern.

He is out of shape. He's fat, slow, and lacking strength now. He doesn't look like the Gallery that came out of college, no way. I think his work ethic has gone to the toilet since he joined Oakland, and because of that he is not producing. I blame that on Gallery, and also the Raiders. They just have a bad organization right now from top to bottom. Poor coaching and poor attitude will rub off on players, and it seems like Gallery got complacent once the check came in the mail. Im still holding out hope, but it doesn't look good right now. Im still gonna give him till the end of the year though.

And having a real coach might help him out too...
I still think that if Gallery went to NY, Coughlin would have made him a great left tackle. I never agreed with the Boselli comparisons, as Boselli is one of the best to ever play the game, but it looks like what Gallery needed was a taskmaster like Coughlin.
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Bust or not I think we can all agree he is way over paid.
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Bust or not I think we can all agree he is way over paid.
Of course you can say that in hindsight, but he was the #2 overall pick.
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Bust or not I think we can all agree he is way over paid.
Wow another great comment.

And saying he didn't beat out Sims for the LT spot is being ignorant, the coaches didn't put him at RT because Sims was playing well on the left side and never even put him on the left side. Who is better Jordan Gross or Travelle Wharton?
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My concern with Gallery is he doesn't have the arm length of a typical elite LT - 32 1/4 inches. Ferguson has 35 1/2, I think Pace has something like 38 inches and Alex Barron came out with 39 1/2 or something.

This, IMO, can be a big deal if he lacks exceptional lateral movement. Someone like Ferguson who is very quick on his feet may not have problems with a shorter arm length, but I see Gallery as a power LT and I think arm length is more important for guys of his nature, as they need to get to the DE before the DE gets around them, and the shorter your arms, the closer they can get before contact.

IMO, this *could* be a concern as the NFL is about speed rushing DE and OLB's these days. If you don't have exceptionally quick feet, you better have some long arms, and Gallery seems to have neither. Maybe he'd be better off at OG?
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Yeah I would say he's a bust...he should be solid at the very least...and I can't say that I believe that he's solid.

He got absolutely torched by Merriman on 1 of his sacks...he pushed him back a yard and then just blew by him.
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When you are drafted 2nd overall, you are expected to be an elite NFL Left Tackle. He doesn't have the arm length or athleticism to be such. At best he can be a solid RT.
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I know you guys are harping a lot on the transition from RT to LT, but I think the fact that he was never able to beat out below average Barry Sims for the LT job says a lot.
It wasn't that he couldn't beat him out,they moved Gallery instantly,thinking he could play there a yr or 2 so that he could transition,but obviously it didn't work.He isn't a bust, but I feel if he doesn't start getting some pankcakes and opening up some holes for the original LJ ,he is gonzo.
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Robert Gallery (calf) will be out at least two-to-three weeks.

Oakland's left tackle wasn't successful in halting San Diego's pass rush in Week 1 and replacement Chad Slaughter isn't likely to fare much better versus the Ravens this Sunday. It's terrible news for all Raiders skill players and a team that was embarrassed late Monday night. Sep. 14 - 8:55 pm et
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What's really shocking about Gallery is how much his technique has gone to **** since he was drafted. I don't know if people remember him as Iowa well, but this kid was amazingly sound technically when he got drafted.

Truth be told, I'm stumped by the whole thing. I'm gonna give Gallery until week 10 to show some improvement (the injury complicates things), then I'm gonna write him off.
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i voted bust.

if you use the #2 overall pick on an o-lineman, you expect him to be among the elite tackles in the game. this is his 3rd year and he got thrown around like a rag doll...meanwhile, aaron brooks is their qb when the coulda had rivers or big ben...and they're desperate for a WR and they coulda had fitz or roy williams. sean taylor would help that D and be a perfect fit for the raiders.
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i voted bust.
if you use the #2 overall pick on an o-lineman, you expect him to be among the elite tackles in the game. this is his 3rd year and he got thrown around like a rag doll...meanwhile, aaron brooks is their qb when the coulda had rivers or big ben...and they're desperate for a WR and they coulda had fitz or roy williams. sean taylor would help that D and be a perfect fit for the raiders.
I thought for sure they would take Fitz I'am glad they passed.
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Once agin it's still too early to wheather or not he is a bust or not. I do agree he is way to over payed.
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if you use the #2 overall pick on an o-lineman, you expect him to be among the elite tackles in the game. this is his 3rd year and he got thrown around like a rag doll...meanwhile, aaron brooks is their qb when the coulda had rivers or big ben...and they're desperate for a WR and they coulda had fitz or roy williams. sean taylor would help that D and be a perfect fit for the raiders.

The Raiders keep passing on franchise Quarterbacks. :roll:
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