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Old 09-18-2006, 05:53 PM    (permalink
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I like Baltimore the best. Big up front, athletes off the edge, great linebackers, good secondary.
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I wish I could put Jacksonville on that list. They did what the Bears did. Only on the big stage and against a great team.
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I wish I could put Jacksonville on that list. They did what the Bears did. Only on the big stage and against a great team.

I agree Jacksonville and Dallas both agree to be on that list. Both showed excellent on the big stage. I suppose dallas isn't considered the best because of how they got raped by those big Jags WR's...but pitt also didn't do great. Williams and Jones combined for 14 catches and about 170 yards which was a little less then 50% of their total offense.
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I wish I could put Jacksonville on that list. They did what the Bears did. Only on the big stage and against a great team.
And people were making fun of Mike Peterson for calling them the best in the NFL during the intros...
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Jacksonville have an elite unit, I wish Hayward didn't go down though.
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Jacksonville have an elite unit, I wish Hayward didn't go down though.
Me too. He was our only every-down defensive end, but there's plenty of depth on the D-line. With Meier starting now and teaming up with Spicer, it's like having four defensive tackles our there. McCray played well on passing downs, and had a sack, too.
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Didn't Jacksonville register a turnover with their 4th and 5th Defensive ends on the field?
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I like Baltimore the best. Big up front, athletes off the edge, great linebackers, good secondary.
as of now... the D has no weaknesses but that will change... but partly due to my homerism and party due to my knowledge... i have to say balitmore has the most explosive and talented D in the leauge
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Baltimore definately contends for the number 1 Defense. The Bears are awfully good too, but if you look at what the Ravens have done their first two games, number 1 in yards allowed, number 1 in points, number 1 in turnovers, number 1 in yards per play(2.8). [SD is 2nd at 3.3 followed by Seattle at 4.3] 1 in 1st downs per game, number 1 in ypcarry(1.7, second is 2.7), tied for third in sacks, 2nd in QB completion %, already have a dTD and a safety, 3rd in 3rd down percentage. Just throwin some facts out there, they have been good thus far, as have been the Bears, but both teams played bad Os so I'll wait and see how they do against someone better, like SD in week 4.
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I wish I could put Jacksonville on that list. They did what the Bears did. Only on the big stage and against a great team.
And people were making fun of Mike Peterson for calling them the best in the NFL during the intros...
I love the Jacksonville defence. I don't know if they're the best, but they're definitely up there. So big, tough, and mean. I love the way they play.
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Baltimore has been great even if they did play bad offences. also, they're carrying my fantasy team :D
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Old 09-22-2006, 10:59 PM    (permalink
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Lol, same here. The Ravens defense is one of the most well-rounded defenses with no glaring weaknesses. I'd say Baltimore with Chicago a close second.
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Jacksonville. Mike Peterson is a underrated guy not a lot of people talk about.
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He is pretty good but his stats are a little inflated having the best DT duo in the league in front of him.
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The rams D has been doin pretty good latley I think they deserve some credit. The did loose to san fran but still. That is not there fault there offense counld not score.
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The thing that makes our defense so good is how deep we are. Especially on the D-Line and in the Secondary. I mean Tank Johnson, Mark Anderson, and Idonije could start for some teams in the NFL, and yet they're backups to Brown, Wale, Tommie, and Brown.

In the secondary, Manning Jr. while a very good Nickel CB could start for a lot of teams in the NFL as well. And Chris Harris is a pretty solid SS, which I feel is his more natural position.

At LB, Ayenbadejo filled in nicely last week and Jamar Williams has been very good on Special Teams.

Our depth is what makes us really scary.
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Until I see otherwise, Chicago has the best defense. They are playing all out every down and I don't see a weakness on that team defensively.

Baltimore is 2nd because they have looked great in their first two games as well but I think Chicago's has been more impressive.

Atlanta is 3rd because I still have questions about them. Don't tell me, "they played two division games against Carolina and Tampa Bay". Yeah, I know they did. My favorite team is in that division. But Tampa Bay looks like a glorified college team (the defense is the only thing keeping them from being lower), and Carolina looked flat out terrible in Week 1 and they were missing Steve Smith, their best offensive weapon.
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i say Ravens are the best. They have great talent just about everywhere on the D

On the line: Suggs is a sack master, Ngata is their first rounder, Pryce is a great DE they got in FA from Denver.

LBs: Ray Lewis looks great and healthy, Adalius Thomas is 1 of the most underrated DEFENSIVE players in the league..hes done it all..safety, LB, DE and he showed his skills verse Raiders with a monster game.

Secondary..IMO the most talented..McAlister, Rolle, Reed and Landry played well last week.

Their D ranks #1 verse run, #3 verse pass #1 Overall. They stopped a team that had a great WR and great rookie RB last year and they stopped Moss and Jordan even though Brooks and their OL sucks.

Jaguars are definatley top 3 BTW. beat 2 quality opponents...shut down the Steelers and did pretty good in first game
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i say Ravens are the best. They have great talent just about everywhere on the D

On the line: Suggs is a sack master, Ngata is their first rounder, Pryce is a great DE they got in FA from Denver.

LBs: Ray Lewis looks great and healthy, Adalius Thomas is 1 of the most underrated DEFENSIVE players in the league..hes done it all..safety, LB, DE and he showed his skills verse Raiders with a monster game.

Secondary..IMO the most talented..McAlister, Rolle, Reed and Landry played well last week.

Their D ranks #1 verse run, #3 verse pass #1 Overall. They stopped a team that had a great WR and great rookie RB last year and they stopped Moss and Jordan even though Brooks and their OL sucks.

Jaguars are definatley top 3 BTW. beat 2 quality opponents...shut down the Steelers and did pretty good in first game
It's not to hard to stop those WR's when Simms is your QB.

Screw all that against the run and against the pass crap. I want to know how many points they let up, because that in the end is the most important thing.

Chicago has let up 7 points in two games on defense. And I believe Baltimore is right up there with Chicago.
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i say Ravens are the best. They have great talent just about everywhere on the D

On the line: Suggs is a sack master, Ngata is their first rounder, Pryce is a great DE they got in FA from Denver.

LBs: Ray Lewis looks great and healthy, Adalius Thomas is 1 of the most underrated DEFENSIVE players in the league..hes done it all..safety, LB, DE and he showed his skills verse Raiders with a monster game.

Secondary..IMO the most talented..McAlister, Rolle, Reed and Landry played well last week.

Their D ranks #1 verse run, #3 verse pass #1 Overall. They stopped a team that had a great WR and great rookie RB last year and they stopped Moss and Jordan even though Brooks and their OL sucks.

Jaguars are definatley top 3 BTW. beat 2 quality opponents...shut down the Steelers and did pretty good in first game
It's not to hard to stop those WR's when Simms is your QB.

Screw all that against the run and against the pass crap. I want to know how many points they let up, because that in the end is the most important thing.

Chicago has let up 7 points in two games on defense. And I believe Baltimore is right up there with Chicago.

also not hard to stop kitna and favre now a days..
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i say Ravens are the best. They have great talent just about everywhere on the D

On the line: Suggs is a sack master, Ngata is their first rounder, Pryce is a great DE they got in FA from Denver.

LBs: Ray Lewis looks great and healthy, Adalius Thomas is 1 of the most underrated DEFENSIVE players in the league..hes done it all..safety, LB, DE and he showed his skills verse Raiders with a monster game.

Secondary..IMO the most talented..McAlister, Rolle, Reed and Landry played well last week.

Their D ranks #1 verse run, #3 verse pass #1 Overall. They stopped a team that had a great WR and great rookie RB last year and they stopped Moss and Jordan even though Brooks and their OL sucks.

Jaguars are definatley top 3 BTW. beat 2 quality opponents...shut down the Steelers and did pretty good in first game
It's not to hard to stop those WR's when Simms is your QB.

Screw all that against the run and against the pass crap. I want to know how many points they let up, because that in the end is the most important thing.

Chicago has let up 7 points in two games on defense. And I believe Baltimore is right up there with Chicago.

also not hard to stop kitna and favre now a days..
Haha can't take a joke...?

Kitna is still a good QB, as is Favre. In Favre's case he just doesn't have the tools around him anymore and he has lost a step, but he's still a good QB.
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