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Old 09-23-2006, 10:41 AM    (permalink
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I'd take Vilma over those guys.
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Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.
well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league
No he won't.
great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable
Not any worse than your argument for Hawk. And calling him a top 10 OLB in a few years is different than calling him one of the best LBs in the league in a few years.

I've said it forever, Hawk was overrated in college because of the school he played for, his name, and his hair. He is a good player, but he won't ever be one of the best like some think he will be.
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Why is A.J. Hawk even in this discussion of best LB under 26 he hasn't done anything yet. It's so random to compare him to a guy like Witherspoon.
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I take Vilma and DJ over every other LB I can think of 26 or under.
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Although he's more of a DE now I'd take Tsizzle over anyone else under 26 except maybe Vilma even to play LB, at 24 his potential is crazy.
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i assume that this is just a comparison between those 2 players, and not the broad topic u previously mentioned or else u clearly are out of ur mind.

witherspoon is the superior player easily. Hawk has played 2 games!!!
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Lance Briggs owns both of them by far. But yeah Vilma is probably the best under 26.
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Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.
well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league
No he won't.
great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable
Not any worse than your argument for Hawk. And calling him a top 10 OLB in a few years is different than calling him one of the best LBs in the league in a few years.

I've said it forever, Hawk was overrated in college because of the school he played for, his name, and his hair. He is a good player, but he won't ever be one of the best like some think he will be.
Yeah. I'm sure that's why he was drafted in the top five.
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Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.
well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league
No he won't.
great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable
Not any worse than your argument for Hawk. And calling him a top 10 OLB in a few years is different than calling him one of the best LBs in the league in a few years.

I've said it forever, Hawk was overrated in college because of the school he played for, his name, and his hair. He is a good player, but he won't ever be one of the best like some think he will be.
Yeah. I'm sure that's why he was drafted in the top five.
Talk to me when he plays at a high level.
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Lance Briggs owns both of them by far. But yeah Vilma is probably the best under 26.
Oooh, I forgot Briggs. He's a stud.
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there are many different guys that are better LBs at or under the age of 26
Vilma, Briggs, Crowder, etc.
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i like williams better out of everyone .....but due to the broncos using the "Big Nickle" takes willaims off the field last year...he is on the feild alot more these 2 games then he was probally 8 games last year..

but i like vilma and williams
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as of right now, its witherspoon, but the linebackers seem to regress when they join the rams, (ie. coakley and claiborne) so i would bet hawk will be better in the near future
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I'm personally not a huge fan of Merriman in a 4-3 as OLB. He strikes me as a 4-3 DE, but I dont see alot of him so I could be wrong. Plus DJ Williams just rules.
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Vilma is the best, but there NEEDS to be some mention of Angelo Crowell. I'd take him over most already mentioned
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You caught me in a bit of an exaggeration there, i'll admit it. I didn't take in the quality of the players already mentioned. What I do hold true is that he still should've been mentioned, is easily one of the most overlooked players in the league, and I would take him over Crowder and Hawk
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Channing Crowder over Lance Briggs?

Yeah ok.
Haha, you caught my homer, but Crowder is a stud.
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How about:

Shawne Merriman - Jonathan Vilma - Karlos Dansby

Shawne Merriman wouldn't be effective as a 4-3 OLB, he'd be a weak side End.
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