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Old 07-13-2007, 03:18 AM    (permalink
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1. Gates
2. Gonzalez
3. Heap
4. Crumpler
5. Cooley
6. Winslow
7. Shockey
8. Witten
9. Watson
10. Miller
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1. Gates
2. Gonzo
3. Kellen Winslow Jr - alotta catches low yards only means hes a big part of the offense
4. Alge Crumpler
5. Todd Heap
6. Shockey
7. Watson
8. Chris Cooley
9. Jason Witten - 1 td?
10. LJ Smith
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wow im late on this. let me correct all you guys mistakes so far lol...

QB:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Carson Palmer
3. Tom Brady
4. Donovan Mcnabb
5. Drew Brees
6. Philip Rivers
7. Marc Bulger
8. Matt Hasselback
9. Chad Pennington
10. Big Ben

Guy i wish would have got on...jon Kitna

Guy who will be on next year...Jay Cutler

RB

1. LT
2. SJ
3. LJ
4. Gore
5. Shaun Alexander
6. Rudi Johnson
7. Clinton Portis
8. EDGE
9. Brian Westbrook
10. Thomas Jones

Nearly Made it...Duece...if bush didnt eat his carries.

Notable Omission...Willie parker. produced, but would you want your team to have him?

Guy who will be on next year...Lawrence Marooney.

WR

1. CJ
2. Steve Smith
3. Torry Holt
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Marvin Harrison
6. Roy Williams
7. TO
8. Andre Johnson
9. Anquan Boldin
10. Javan Walker

Barely Missed...Driver. though he was top 10...but hes not better than anyone up there now

Notable Omissions...Wayne, Housh...sometimes people make the mistake of thinking REALLY REALLY good number twos are number ones. remember peerless price?

Will be on next year...Randy Moss, Colston

TE

1. Antonio Gates
2. Todd Heap
3. K2
4. Jeremy Shockey
5. Tony Gonzalez
6. Alge Crumpler
7. Chris Cooley
8. Jason Witten
9. Ben Watson
10. Heath Miller

Guy who will be on next year...Vernon Davis
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Notable Omission...Willie parker. produced, but would you want your team to have him?
Uh Yeah. Parker is a player and proved last year he can carry the load without the Bus.
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Old 07-13-2007, 09:59 AM    (permalink
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Notable Omissions...Wayne, Housh...sometimes people make the mistake of thinking REALLY REALLY good number twos are number ones. remember peerless price?
Reggie Wayne and TJ Housh are not Peerless Price.
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RB:
1. LT
2. Larry Johnson
3. Shaun Alexander
4. Steven Jackson
5. Frank Gore
6. Brian Westbrook
7. Clinton Portis
8. Rudi Johnson
9. Willie Parker
10. Deuce McAllister

WR:
1. Chad Johnson
2. Steve Smith
3. Marvin Harrison
4. Roy Williams
5. Torry Holt
6. Larry Fitzgerald
7. Anquan Boldin
8. T.O.
9. Reggie Wayne
10. Lee Evans
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TE:
1. Antonio Gates
2. Jeremy Shockey
3. Todd Heap
4. Tony Gonzalez
5. Kellen Winslow Jr
6. Chris Cooley
7. Alge Crumpler
8. Ben Watson
9. Jason Witten
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I dont get the fixation with heath miller. There seems to be 11 top notch TEs to put on this list of 10, and i see alot of miller ahead of LJ smith.

LJ Smith 16 games 50 rec 611yards 5 tds 29 first downs 12.2 ypc 6.4 yac
Heath Miller 16 games 34 rec 393 yards 5 tds 21 first downs 11.6 ypc 5.6 yac

yeah they are pretty close but these numbers would suggest LJ gets the nudge does it not?
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I dont get the fixation with heath miller. There seems to be 11 top notch TEs to put on this list of 10, and i see alot of miller ahead of LJ smith.

LJ Smith 16 games 50 rec 611yards 5 tds 29 first downs 12.2 ypc 6.4 yac
Heath Miller 16 games 34 rec 393 yards 5 tds 21 first downs 11.6 ypc 5.6 yac

yeah they are pretty close but these numbers would suggest LJ gets the nudge does it not?
I think miller is a better run blocker though... L.J is a big receiver IMO
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I think miller is a better run blocker though... L.J is a big receiver IMO
Exactly, Miller is a good blocker, which is rare in top TEs these days.
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Exactly, Miller is a good blocker, which is rare in top TEs these days.
I dont think its rare by any means. Sure not every TE is a great blocker, but how can you tell? Its not like gates is bad at it, i mean LT did lead the league in rushing. I'm sure theres a story for every player but i think its hard to judge how well a TE blocks based on the production of the RB. maybe westbrook doesnt get the ball alot on handoffs ands thats why the eagles dont have as potent a running game as say the steelers. Besides, doesnt pittsburg have like 100000 tes that they use anyway to help block and stuff?
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This thread has been dead for awhile but I still need to make a couple of picks

WR
1.Marvin Harrison
2.Torry Holt
3.Chad Johnson
4.Steve Smith
5.Terrell Owens
6.Roy Williams
7.Anquan Boldin
8.Reggie Wayne
9.Andre Johnson
10.Larry Fitzgerald
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You know lets try to bring this alive again.... Since i dont know enought offensive lineman to make rankings for Tackles gaurds and centers..... ill Do Defensives Ends

#1 Julius Peppers
#2 Micheal Strahan
#3 Dwight Freeney
#4 Aaron Shobel
#5 Aaron Kampman
#6 Derrick Burgess
#7 Osi Umenyiora
#8 Terrel Suggs (Sorta the same reason as taylor... though i dont really know cause i dont watch much raven ball games)
#9 Jason Taylor (reason is so low because he plays a slash for the dolphins... if he was a pure DE he would be higher)
#10 Will Smith


Hopefully this will get the debates going again
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Exactly, Miller is a good blocker, which is rare in top TEs these days.
people tend to forget that he has really good hands...if he was faster people would have him rated higher..also you cant put the argument on stats because cowher didnt like to throw to the tight end..but with ariens i believe heath will have a HUGE year
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You know lets try to bring this alive again.... Since i dont know enought offensive lineman to make rankings for Tackles gaurds and centers..... ill Do Defensives Ends

#1 Julius Peppers
#2 Micheal Strahan
#3 Dwight Freeney
#4 Aaron Shobel
#5 Aaron Kampman
#6 Derrick Burgess
#7 Osi Umenyiora
#8 Terrel Suggs (Sorta the same reason as taylor... though i dont really know cause i dont watch much raven ball games)
#9 Jason Taylor (reason is so low because he plays a slash for the dolphins... if he was a pure DE he would be higher)
#10 Will Smith


Hopefully this will get the debates going again

in all honesty i think aaron smith needs to be on here..most of these guys are one dementional(sp) while smith is great at gettin to the qb and also great in run support..truely underrated and not known so im not suprised hes not on here, but he should be
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in all honesty i think aaron smith needs to be on here..most of these guys are one dementional(sp) while smith is great at gettin to the qb and also great in run support..truely underrated and not known so im not suprised hes not on here, but he should be
he would be my 11:D
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1. Antonio Gates
2. Gonzo
3. Jermey Shockey
4. K2
5. Alge Crumpler
6. Chris Cooley
7. Todd Heap
8. Heath Miller
9. Jason Witten
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1. Ferotte 2. Grossman 3. Kitna 4. Jackson 5. Fitzpatrick
6. McCown 7. Frye 8. Culpepper 9. Cassel 10. Orlovski

Just Joking this is my real list
1. Peyton Manning
2. Palmer
3. Brady
4. Brees
5. McNabb
6. Bulger
7. Hasselbeck
8. Favre
9. Romo
10. Young
Wth! Where is Andrew Walter?
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umm dont know what position were doing so Ill just do O-Line

Tackles

Walter Jones
Orlando Pace
Levi Brown
Jonathan Ogden
Marcus Mcniel
Willie Anderson
Jason Peters
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Matt Light
Bryant Mckinnie

Guards

Shawn Andrews
Alan Faneca
Steve Hutchinson
Logan Mankins
Shane Olivea
Eric Steinbach
Jahri Evans
Stephen Neal
Chris Naeole
Roberto Garza

Centers

Olin Kruetz
Nick Mangold
Jeff Saturday
Matt Birk
LeCharles Bentley
Nick Hardwick
Mike Flynn
Jeff Faine
Dominic Raiola
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OT
1. Walter Jones
2. Orlando Pace
3. Jamaal Brown
4. Jonathan Ogden
5. Jason Peters
6. Willie Anderson
7. Marcus McNeil
8. Chris Samuels
9. Jon Runyan
10. Jordan Gross

G
1. Steve Hutchinson
2. Shawn Andrews
3. Alan Faneca
4. Eric Steinbach
5. Brian Waters
6. Mike Wahle
7. Larry Allen
8. Justin Smiley
9. Logan Mankins
10. Kris Dielman

C
1. Olin Kruetz
2. Tom Nalen
3. Jeff Saturday
4. Matt Birk
5. Jamall Jackson
6. Nick Hartwick
7. Nick Mangold
8. Dan Koppen
9. Chris Spencer
10. Justin Hartwig
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Tackles

Walter Jones
Orlando Pace
Levi Brown
Jonathan Ogden
Marcus Mcniel
Willie Anderson
Jason Peters
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Matt Light
Bryant Mckinnie

Guards

Shawn Andrews
Alan Faneca
Steve Hutchinson
Logan Mankins
Shane Olivea
Eric Steinbach
Jahri Evans
Stephen Neal
Chris Naeole
Roberto Garza

Centers

Olin Kruetz
Nick Mangold
Jeff Saturday
Matt Birk
LeCharles Bentley
Nick Hardwick
Mike Flynn
Jeff Faine
Dominic Raiola
Shaun O'Hara
Levi Jones maybe?
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QB-
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Palmer
4. Brees
5. Bulger
6. McNabb
7. Hasselbeck
8. Favre
9. Rivers
10. Romo

RB-
1. LT
2. LJ
3. Jackson
4. Alexander
5. Gore
6. Rudi Johnson
7. Wesbrook
8. Portis
9. Parker
10. Addai

WR-
1. Chad Johnson
2. Harrison
3. Holt
4. Steve Smith
5. Roy Williams
6. Owens
7. Fitzgerald
8. Boldin
9. Andre Johnson
10. Lee Evans

TE-
1. Gates
2. Gonzalez
3. Heap
4. Crumpler
5. Shockey
6. Winslow
7. Cooley
8. Witten
9. Watson
10. Miller

OT-
1. Jones
2. Brown
3. Pace
4. Jones
5. Ogden
6. McNeill
7. Samuels
8. Light
9. Peters
10. William Thomas

OG-
1. Hutchinson
2. Andrews
3. Waters
4. Faneca
5. Steinbach
6. Mankins
7. Dielman
8. Naeole
9. Evans
10. Hamilton
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