Denver Broncos Discussion - Page 29

Diehard · 08-13-2007, 11:52 AM

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I don't doubt though that Williams can perform admirably, hopefully Gold plays well and whoever plays SAM can also do well.

I'm crossing my fingers. LB, which has been a strength in the past, is a question mark right now... and it is something that really needs to be addressed in the next draft (a stud strongside backer should be at the top of the team's wish list).

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or have the Gods hate me and have a ****** offense and defense. I'm hoping it's not the latter. It's definitely an exciting time to be a Broncos fan.

The Gods like to curse rookie/sophmore starting QBs. Consider it their version of hazing. The problem is sometimes they take it too far and leave the player a broken mess (see Tim Couch). Hopefully Cutler can produce this year despite this divine adversity...

ripdw27 · 08-14-2007, 10:20 PM

haha not to be a homer but..

jay cutler - PRIMED for a breakout.. so much hype about him
travis henry - lofa tatupu projects him to have 1600 yds... ill take it
javon walker - huge diverse playmaker very effective receiver
brandon marshall - underrated and comes up big, good hands/height
rod smith - um hes rod smith. nuff said
tony scheffler/daniel graham - two great te's that will give us weapons in double te sets as well as depth
o-line - ha its denver broncos o line. top unit
d-line - deff our weakness, but getting stronger.
dj - has biig shoes to fill for al wilson. but i think hes gonna overfill those.. i seriously think he has potential to be as good as wilson.
ian gold - just needs to be solid. make tackles, hit down passes.
champ bailey - ha just needs the ball thrown to him haha
dre bly - cant let his guard down with champ on the other side
lynch - needs to play a role as a leader, keep up the big hits

all that said.. lets look at our division. no hype about ANY other teams.
Raiders - #1 pick (unsigned?) Jamarcus Russell. (bust)
Chargers - no hype even with lt coming off a hall of fame year
Chiefs - eh nothin major

JCutlery · 08-19-2007, 11:52 AM

Ekuban is likely gone for the season after suffering a torn achilles tendon against Dallas. This is a huge loss, in my opinion, as Eb was a definite starter and is one of the few ends on our team that excels against the run. Crowder and Moss will have to step up, and considering they are both hobbled by injuries, things are not looking good for the Broncos' defense. It's looking like 06 all over again..

Namy · 08-20-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JCutlery

Ekuban is likely gone for the season after suffering a torn achilles tendon against Dallas. This is a huge loss, in my opinion, as Eb was a definite starter and is one of the few ends on our team that excels against the run. Crowder and Moss will have to step up, and considering they are both hobbled by injuries, things are not looking good for the Broncos' defense. It's looking like 06 all over again..

We looked like sh*t against Dallas. I know Dallas is a great team, but we looked awful. Our team looked lost and dazed. We better get our act together or we're not making the playoffs. It's the same old story really... can't stop teams on 3rd downs.. cant convert 3rd downs either.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 08-20-2007, 11:56 AM

Jay Cutler knows what he's doing. If he sucks in preseason, he'll take everyone by surprise when he throws 160 TDs during the season :).

keylime_5 · 08-20-2007, 06:16 PM

Question. Who is gonna start for Ekuban this saturday vs. the Browns, Dumervil, Moss, or someone else? I think it's quite obvious that Moss will eventually be there starting at RDE during the regular season, but who is gonna be the immediate replacement.

Also, as much as I dislike Denver, would like to say I'm sad for you guys about Ekuban being out for the year, he was the one D-Lineman who we gave you guys that I was sad to see go. He is a good, classy player, and I hope he gets back to the field as soon as he can.

thetedginnshow · 08-22-2007, 08:46 AM

Hey do you think you guys could tell me how Henry is doing? Do you think the injury will be an issue?

thetedginnshow · 08-22-2007, 09:40 AM

Well, I talked about the injury, so yeah, the injury. Haha. I'm just wondering how serious it's sounded and if it'll be a setback.

M · 08-25-2007, 01:03 AM

0ur ubiquitous moderator prognosticates 12 - I never you to be so optimistic as this could one of those nagging injury for the season.

It does not bode well that Henry is not going to get many reps preseason as he and Cutler are clearly not yet on the same page (see handoff in Dallas and not breaking off routes during blitz reads). He can run well, but the first game could be . . . a little ugly as we will be blitzed to death.

If defense surrenders 200 + yards rushing per game and puts no pressure on QB, as evidence by effort so far, it will be an academic concern.

Diehard · 08-26-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M

If defense surrenders 200 + yards rushing per game and puts no pressure on QB, as evidence by effort so far, it will be an academic concern.

The defense will improve as the season progresses - though how good it will end up being is definitely up in the air...

DL:
Lots of potential here, which is another way of saying these guys aren't playing particularly well right now. Elvis & the Rookies will improve (perhaps Gordon too?), Sam Adams will get tired and the rest aren't much more than filler.

LB:
Despite my hopes for DJ in the middle, I have to agree with njx9 that the move hasn't paid off so far. Webster might be a better fit, with DJ to WLB and Gold into the garbage... which further underscores the need for a stud SLB though the draft or FA.

DB:
Champ is the champ, so we're 25% there right from the get go. Bly *will* get burned on occasion - ask any Detroit fan about that. However, he'll also make some big plays. Lynch plays like a LB - big hits, crappy coverage. The rest are question marks, though perhaps Abdullah will emerge as a player.

Anyway, I think it would be wise to brace for a rocky start will some nice developments around mid-season. At least the offense has the firepower to put up points while the defense gets its affairs in order...

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 08-26-2007, 09:16 PM

At S, all we really need is someone to help Bly over the top, and put Lynch in the box. That's not gonna be an easy secondary to move the ball on. You've got Champ on one side, and Bly with help on the other. And if you run, we have a guy who's still one of the best 8th men in the NFL. We just need the front seven to work well. It's a shame Wilson got hurt.

M · 08-28-2007, 12:48 AM

Anyone "unexpected" getting cut in first trim down?

M · 09-02-2007, 09:49 PM

You are right - is it not the annual lets get a pick from the redskins time of year. It is like Christmas in September every year!

M · 09-02-2007, 10:43 PM

The full list of released players is as follows:

Quarterbacks: Darrell *******, Preston Parsons.
Fullbacks: Kyle Johnson.
Running Backs: None.
Wide Receivers: Glenn Martinez, Marquay McDaniel, Quincy Morgan.
Tight ends: None.
Offensive linemen: Emmanuel Akah, Greg Eslinger, Mark Fenton, Kevin McAlmont, Chad Mustard, Cliff Washburn.
Defensive linemen: John Browning, Steven Harris, Jimmy Kennedy.
Linebackers: T.J. Hollowell, Cameron Vaughn.
Safeties: Steve Cargile, Roderick Rogers.
Cornerbacks: Bill Alford, Kevin House.

I thought we might have kept one QB and Eslinger but Kyle Johnson was the only real "hmmmm" name.

Diehard · 09-03-2007, 06:18 PM

According to ESPN, Simeon Rice is now a Bronco.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 09-03-2007, 07:03 PM

If he can still get after the QB, I like it. No such thing as too many pass rushers.

M · 09-03-2007, 11:08 PM

Sources have learned that the Broncos currently have 5 trade offers for Mike Bell. Our sources tell us that Shanahan has decided to put the decision in Mike Bell's lap. We've been told that Shanahan has spoken with Bell and laid his role out in the Broncos offense as a fullback who provides spot carries for a change of pace ("in essence," the Full Back role that Mike Anderson manned for so many years). Our sources tell us that the teams involved are Indianapolis, Green Bay, Baltimore, St. Louis, and Atlanta, with the trade offers being conditional 5th - 7th round picks.. Ultimately, the decision to depart from Denver has been put in Mike Bell's lap, leaving it up to him to decide what he thinks is best for him.

Where is Washington on this list, I was certain we would have a trade with Washington by now!

As far as Rice, I do not see 10 plus sacks but I see Rice as being a great rotational player to add impressive depth - especially on 3rd and long downs substitutions.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 09-03-2007, 11:17 PM

The Redskins are tryign to package all their picks for the next three years to get him.

M · 09-12-2007, 11:55 PM

Looking at the team as we now see it, subject to injury, what are your thoughts on our draft needs next year:

My thoughts are :
1. Replace Lynch (I know that I am anti-Lynch but he is too slow)
2. Linebacker - we need a MLB so DJ can move outside and Gold can be traded to washington for a second - sixth round pick, or an outside linbacker to replace Gold (which by the way Gold is a description of the weight of his arms because it would appear he cannot move them to try and wrap up a player).
3. Depth on the Offensive Line
4. a very large RB for those short yardage / inside the 10 situations

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 09-13-2007, 04:46 PM

Lynch starting wouldn't be too awful if we got a great cover guy and kept Lynch near the line. Bly and Bailey could probably do well enough that a great coverage guy could cover for them if they ever faltered.

Diehard · 09-14-2007, 01:32 AM

A Ballhawk FS and a true strongside LB should headline the draft wish list. Another DT wouldn't hurt either as Sam Adams is due for a heart attack any minute...

JCutlery · 09-15-2007, 10:00 AM

Here is a small mock of what I want to happen..

1 FS Kenny Phillips, Miami (slide Lynch over to SS so we never see him in coverage again)

2 LB Philip Wheeler, Georgia Tech (weakside linebacker to replace Gold, can play SAM or MIKE just in case)

4 DT Dre Moore, Maryland (big guy in the middle, should fit Bates' scheme)

4 WR Dorien Bryant, Purdue (blazing speed, nice hands and could help in the return game)

5 OT Duane Brown, Virginia Tech (we need tackle depth)

5 RB Kyle Bell, Colorado State (we could really use a power-runner)

7 value pick

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 09-15-2007, 08:07 PM

I hope we aren't bad enough to pick K Phillips. He's probly gonna be top 10.

ripdw27 · 09-16-2007, 12:07 PM

i see everyone kinda doggin lynch for his covereage skills but i remember when we beat the pats in the playoffs about 2 years ago when lynch had a pick lol it was probally more by luck but still..

1. S... id prefer some kinda ballhawk, some guy that could be a playmaker in a few years. last year i wanted reggie nelson so bad but as of now theres no college players that appeal to me.

2. LB... Middle or outside, doesnt really matter. If its middle then we move dj to SAM and kick out Ian Gold. if its outside, leave dj at mike n kick out gold stil.

3. OL... our guys are gettin old. we got ryan harris which is a pretty nice step but id like to see a center or guard tihs year.

4. WR... somebody really fast, so we can use him in the slot and as a returner.

5. RB or CB... at rb we cuold spell and eventually replace travis henry. at CB we would have a future replacement for bailey or bly, lets face it, champ is 29 n bly is 30. i doubt a 5th round CB would fill there shoes but who knows, maybe we get lucky.

ripdw27 · 09-16-2007, 12:11 PM

is javon walker starting today