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Old 10-05-2007, 10:53 AM    (permalink
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Yeah, it's still early but, Kiper has him falling. Today on Mike and Mike he ranked the QB's like so...

1. Brohm
2. Ryan
3. Woodson

The next few games against the SEC's elite, could really be a deciding factor in Andre's draft position. Woodson was awful last night...he's not used to being rushed and it showed...he was forcing throws and constantly making bad decisions. He's lucky to have come out of the game with only three turnovers. As Kiper said, these next few weeks will define Woodson. They could mean the difference between being taken 2nd among Qb's or being say the 4th signal caller taken off the board. Yes, it was one game but, already his stock seems to be falling among experts. He did not look like an elite prospect yesterday. It was a very poor showing...he needs to bring his "A" game next week against LSU. Now, I'm sure he'll still be taken 2nd after Brohm but, he really needs to show that he can be better when under pressure in the upcoming weeks.
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Yes. The fumbles where huge, but look at his passing stats. They are still pretty solid.
23-40 is nothing to really get excited over and the bulk of his yards game on screens and uncovered hitches.
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The thing is, any QB can look pretty good when he gets time in the pocket.

When it comes to drafting, I'd prefer to take the QB whom I've seen get subjected to heavy pressure, and has done well more often than not, ahead of the guy who's been sitting pretty throwing 70%.

It is definitely worrying that the first time Woodson was subjected to a good defense, he looked average, if not panicked. It will be a good indication of his temperament to see how he responds when facing LSU. Apparently they have a decent defense...
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If Harrington keeps it up, which is a lot to ask, QB might not even be a need nor will the team be in position to draft one of the elite ones. How Harrington plays from here on out will determine a lot of things.
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Indeed. That would obviously be a good thing. Brohm, Woodson and Ryan all have a decent chance to be good NFL QBs, but none of them is exactly Peyton part deux.

If Harrington turns out to be even just a tolerable starting QB, we're suddenly only a few pieces (basically some extra size on both lines) from being genuinely competitive. And with a ton of draft picks this year...

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say we finish.. 7-9. harrington has an abysmal season, but the best of his career. do we still look at a future qb in the mid first or second round?
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Have you watched him play though? He's incredibly impressive. He's ELITE no matter what year he comes out. He would have challenged for #1 with JaMarcus last year. He's got everything you could want in a QB...really. Great head on his shoulders, great decisions, gets the ball out of his hands quick, and can throw a deep ball that's for darn sure. Beautiful touch on his passes...I like Woodson but I can't get away from Brohm, I think we're over skeptical simply because it's the easy thing to do would be to bring him back with his old College coach. But Brohm is an elite talent no doubt about it.
After watching Kentucky lose against SC, it's really ease to see that Brohm is the better QB. Even after seeing Louisville lose against Utah.
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Woodson looked bad yesterday when he faced constant pressure. He also has the privelege of having a great running game to support him which gets overlooked when he is hyped up.
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say we finish.. 7-9. harrington has an abysmal season, but the best of his career. do we still look at a future qb in the mid first or second round?

If Harrington and Leftwich are under contract, and Harrington had a solid season (i.e the best of his career), then I would say no.
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If Harrington and Leftwich are under contract, and Harrington had a solid season (i.e the best of his career), then I would say no.

I would have to agree. I think we go for a McFadden, Dorsey, or Long instead, and pick up a 2nd or 3rd round QB to try and mold.
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I would have to agree. I think we go for a McFadden, Dorsey, or Long instead, and pick up a 2nd or 3rd round QB to try and mold.
the falcons would be better off selecting a player who could be the face of the franchise a position vick held for the longest time and officially have them move on in the post-vick era..mcfadden fits the bill
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Yes he does, but a big-time LT, or someone like Dorsey is probably a bigger need. If Barber or Turner become available, and we pick one of them up, our RB problem is solved. Even though I love the Norwood/DMac combo.
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the falcons would be better off selecting a player who could be the face of the franchise a position vick held for the longest time and officially have them move on in the post-vick era..mcfadden fits the bill

Winning cures all ills. People, for the most part, will forget about Vick if the team does well. Harrington has been good thus far, and Leftwich has talent as well. If they can play adequately then the team: 1. won't be in a position to draft one of the 'elite' Quarterbacks, and 2. it would help the team more to draft a LT, DT, or RB.
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Brohm will be better under Petrino's system.
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Yes he does, but a big-time LT, or someone like Dorsey is probably a bigger need. If Barber or Turner become available, and we pick one of them up, our RB problem is solved. Even though I love the Norwood/DMac combo.
i feel a RB for the falcons is just as big of a need as a LT or DT
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Those three are the biggest, by far. I thought QB would have been, but so far so good. Petrino's offense has made Joey Harrington look like Joey Heisman again.
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For my 2 cents I don't think ATL needs a QB. Your D line is old with Grady Jackson starting while Coleman is injured all the time. Petrino doesn't have the type of big, beefy o-line he wants or the big bruising Eric Shelton or Mike Bush type back in this offense. The safeties suck and the only corner yall have is DeAngelo Hall. Joey is looking different while Leftwich is young already. Build up the LINE.
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This is why overreaction is so dangerous. First two weeks Harrington sucked it up, then he was great the next two weeks, and now.... There isn't any semblance of consistency.
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yes but look at the time he got last week AND in the preason. Joey is a smart guy, if we get him time back there he will make reads rip teams to shreads. As of now, unless we draft Dennis Dixon to run away from 300lbers every 2nd play there isnt much difference who is in there at Qb.

Granted; the completion to Roddy White not going for 6 was all on Joey.

The season is only 16 games long, over-reaction is all part of the fun.
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