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Old 11-26-2007, 08:23 PM    (permalink
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can Caulcrick block though? I know he can run....
If we want a fullback for blocking McKie is fine. Drafting someone to block in the 3rd round when we have an ungodly amount of needs would border on ********.
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You could argue that Jerry Angelo borders on those censor * means.
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You could argue that Jerry Angelo borders on those censor * means.
You could but you'd be wrong. Jerry Angelo took a franchise that was a pile of trash for 10 years before he got there and turned it into a Superbowl team.
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He also does alot of things that make you go what the *********?
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Jerry Angelo gets way too much credit for our recent success & not enough blame for this year's disaster.

Don't get me wrong though - he is a very good GM and we could be a lot worse off.
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So Benson is done...

Not sure that is such a gorrible thing for you guys, especially against the Giants. I think Peterson and Wolfe match up better against the Giants run D anyway.

This is going to be a very interesting game to watch....2 roller coaster D's that will have to deal with a good pass rush.
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Is Losman a FA this year? I wouldn't mind trying him for a 2 -3 year contract over Grossman.
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I don't believe Losman is a FA.


Apparently Vasher will be back this week. That would be a huge boost considering the Giants would otherwise try to match the very tall Plaxico Burress against the very short Manning and McBride. Not to mention that it would allow us to play a little more man and keep Archuleta in the box where he belongs.
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They'll find a way.
The only way briggs will leave is if someone offers him tons, and i mean tons of money. I don't see anyone offering him more than he asked for this year.

I agree. It looks like rebuilding sort of next year... Hopefully some of our rookies this year and last year will kick it up...

*cough, danieal manning, cough cough*
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so looking back at the 07 draft... We basically traded Ugoh, who is turning into a top left tackle in the league, for Dan Bazuin, Michael Okwo, Michael Payne (who are all on IR), and a 3rd round pick... yeah, at the time it seemed like a pretty good move to get 3 extra picks, but it looks pretty stupid now.
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so looking back at the 07 draft... We basically traded Ugoh, who is turning into a top left tackle in the league, for Dan Bazuin, Michael Okwo, Michael Payne (who are all on IR), and a 3rd round pick... yeah, at the time it seemed like a pretty good move to get 3 extra picks, but it looks pretty stupid now.
Way too early to judge. I'm not all that convinced that Ugoh is that great either, or just the product of an incredible system. Indy does a tremendous job of neutralizing blitzes by running draws and screens and keeping teams on their heels.

I remember at the time wanting Sidney Rice, who is looking very good right now.
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Way too early to judge. I'm not all that convinced that Ugoh is that great either, or just the product of an incredible system. Indy does a tremendous job of neutralizing blitzes by running draws and screens and keeping teams on their heels.

I remember at the time wanting Sidney Rice, who is looking very good right now.
I remember wanting D-Jarrett because you know...he can catch
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Jarrett's a bum. Carolina has no depth at receiver and he still can't make the gameday roster.
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Jarrett's a bum. Carolina has no depth at receiver and he still can't make the gameday roster.
Well, let's just say I was WAY off with him.. I thought he was going to be good.

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yea... i really thought Jarrett would be able to be a productive player... but he really does have Mike Williams syndrome.
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yea... i really thought Jarrett would be able to be a productive player... but he really does have Mike Williams syndrome.
I have not seen him play, but look at their Qbs. Your really cant say that he wont be productive after 12games.
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I have not seen him play, but look at their Qbs. Your really cant say that he wont be productive after 12games.
He won't be productive. Huh? Apparently you can say that.
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so looking back at the 07 draft... We basically traded Ugoh, who is turning into a top left tackle in the league, for Dan Bazuin, Michael Okwo, Michael Payne (who are all on IR), and a 3rd round pick... yeah, at the time it seemed like a pretty good move to get 3 extra picks, but it looks pretty stupid now.
New Orleans traded their entire draft to get Ricky Williams in the draft to the Redskins. Do you remember any players the Redskins drafted? No and I don't believe any are still with the team.

Did the Redskins get the better end of the deal? Absolutely, but I'm not judging it on the hindsight in the players chosen.

You all made the smart trade and you got the better end of the deal. I was never a fan of the Bears draft except for Greg Olsen. I mean Garrett Wolfe in the 3rd? Why? I liked the pick of Josh Beekman but other than that...bleh.

No offense. I just thought you all could have done better.
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They must of felt that we needed the depth and looking at it now we could use the help at DL and in the secondary to bad they got hurt though.
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On ChicagoBears.com the chalk talk guy said that Safety is our biggest need! I agree that it is a big need but I think that upgrading the O-line is our biggest. If Kenny Phillips is there in the first I don't know if I could take him over a potential starting Tackle.
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On ChicagoBears.com the chalk talk guy said that Safety is our biggest need! I agree that it is a big need but I think that upgrading the O-line is our biggest. If Kenny Phillips is there in the first I don't know if I could take him over a potential starting Tackle.
I could see it, there are quite a few OL prospects this year from what I read. Kenny Philips will be a good NFL saftey, so I would take a shot at him if an OL wasnt worth the pick in that spot of the draft
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I was just suprised he took a stand on anything. Mayer is such a hack sucking at the tit of power. His "articles" are closer to press releases than any legitimate journalism.
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Meyer always gets harassed at training camp for being a phony.
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Lets say we pick at no. 9 or 10...

1.) Kenny Phillips, S
With him and D. Manning, we have a fine young safety duo. Phillips would likely play strong.

2.) Chris Williams, OT
Falls this fair because this is a very a good tackle class. Is similar to Marcus McNeil, IMO. Is a great run blocker and will allow us to move Tait back over to RT.

3a) Joe Flacco, QB
Good developmental QB. As for the QB situation goes, either bring back Grossman on a cheap 1 year contract and cut/trade Griese, or just let Grossman go. Let Kyle Orton and Griese/Grossman compete for QB while Flacco develops.

3b) Heath Benedict, OL
Can play both G or T. Could compete for a starting job at G right away.

-Trade Alex Brown for a late third
3c) Peyton Hillis, FB/H-Back
At first I didn't like this idea by HD, but now love the idea. He would be a great weapon out of the backfield. Has great hands and knows how to get open, can run with the ball, and is a very good blocker as well.
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We're not going to pick 9 or 10. We have one of the hardest SOS in the league. Even if we finish 1-4 we'll be picking at least 11th or 12th.

Picks are fine. Still not a fan of the Hills pick.
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