Gil Brandt's 'All-Rookie' Team - Page 2

Caddy · 01-01-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

Tanard Jackson not getting in is just stupid. He has been the best rookie safety so far this year. Sears and Gaines are deserving though

Landry and Nelson have had good seasons so it is far from surprising to not see Tanard make the list.

Addict · 01-01-2008, 06:18 AM

This list looks pretty solid, Beason and Willis are beasts though... huge numbers

scottyboy · 01-01-2008, 08:50 AM

Brian Leonard baby!!!! WOO!!!!!

and Leon Hall over Ross? WTF? Hall has more INT's, but has gotten beat much more, and Ross has a TD.

kmartin575 · 01-01-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiomera

CJ made the list . . . a little surprising to me . . .

But were there any other impact rookie receivers? None really come to mind when I start to think about it . . . surely not Robert Meachem, ha ha

Dwayne Bowe (best rookie receiver by far)
James Jones

BigJohn98 · 01-01-2008, 01:21 PM

Reggie Nelson woot woot!

Burns336 · 01-01-2008, 01:31 PM

hasn't Leon Hall been burnt like toast early and often this year?

Ross has been great for the G-men, and has an argument for being the best rookie cb. Not sure how he didn't make this list, but a CB on one of the worst D's in the league did.

bearsfan_51 · 01-01-2008, 01:39 PM

James Jones over Calvin Johnson......please.

Jones has Favre. Johnson has Kitna. Argument over.

757Dawg · 01-01-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan0099

Which was what???
And Joe Thomas gave up 5.5 sacks, Idk where that guy is getting 1 sack from.

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but they could not be anymore wrong.

Joe Thomas did not give up 5.5 sacks this season. Any and every Browns fan will attest to that.

5.5 sacks? Ridiculous.....

Matthew Jones · 01-01-2008, 05:29 PM

I wanted the Patriots to draft Meriweather and Beason, Posluszny, or Harris, and then it turns out the linebackers become beasts and we're looking at paying big money to a linebacker with the seventh pick this year when we could be paying significantly less otherwise. I'm not complaining too much about the seventh pick, just that the financial risk is significantly greater.

PalmerToCJ · 01-01-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Burns336

hasn't Leon Hall been burnt like toast early and often this year?

Ross has been great for the G-men, and has an argument for being the best rookie cb. Not sure how he didn't make this list, but a CB on one of the worst D's in the league did.

Hall got beat up early in the season because he had to start. 2nd half of the season he stepped it up and was very productive.

He had 27 more total tackles than Ross and 3 more pass deflections, Hall is VERY good in run D. I haven't seen Ross play much but there's a debate for Hall to be made.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-01-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by d34ng3l021

Blalock over Grubbs? Blalock has been pretty average this year. Sure he has gone up against alot of top competition, but he was so inconsistent.

I havent seen Grubbs play though.

Are you sure? He had that 2 game rookie wall, but he's been good overall. Only decent against teams like Minnesota, but overall he's been good.

themaninblack · 01-01-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerToCJ

Hall got beat up early in the season because he had to start. 2nd half of the season he stepped it up and was very productive.

He had 27 more total tackles than Ross and 3 more pass deflections, Hall is VERY good in run D. I haven't seen Ross play much but there's a debate for Hall to be made.

yes, he has matured very quickly this season and is going to be great alongside jonathan joseph in the years to come.

Twiddler · 01-01-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

James Jones over Calvin Johnson......please.

Jones has Favre. Johnson has Kitna. Argument over.

Yeah, Calvin definitely deserved it over James Jones regarding circumstances. But had Jones actually been able to somewhat keep up his rate that he was at before he blew up in the first Bears game he would have gotten the nod because he was playing greatly. But woulda coulda shoulda.

keylime_5 · 01-01-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan0099

Which was what???
And Joe Thomas gave up 5.5 sacks, Idk where that guy is getting 1 sack from.

no, I think it was actually 2. I remember he had only given up 1 going into the Cincinnati game, and Justin Smith got another one off him then.

keylime_5 · 01-01-2008, 07:25 PM

Is it just me or did Calvin Johnson get way too much hype going into his rookie season or what? Sure he's good, but he's definitely not the next Moss like he was deemed during the draft season. If a guy is gonna be that good you usually can tell right away. Next Braylon Edwards probably, next Randy Moss, no.

johbur · 01-02-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bills2083

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Not surprising from him. The only thing that surprised me was that he actually picked anyone that was not a first rounder. I would have been more impressed if he'd also included the winning impact said rookies had on their team.

BlindSite · 01-02-2008, 01:18 AM

Beason is on his way to becoming on of the Us best alumni.

Mr. Stiller · 01-02-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by keylime_5

no, I think it was actually 2. I remember he had only given up 1 going into the Cincinnati game, and Justin Smith got another one off him then.

I honestly don't know why he got off the hook for the 3 against the Steelers.

Maybe they just think he's the great white hope in Cleveland so they inflate his numbers.

I still remember hearing going into week 7 that he hadn't given up sacks..

Forgetting that James Farrior literally knocked him on his ass for a sack, James Harrison ran around him and got a sack, and He decided to double team a corner on a blitz leaving the outside rusher free.

I can't see how those don't count.

Modano · 01-02-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mqtirishfan

Crosby deserves to be there over Folk.

Why? Crosby missed 8 FG, Folk 5... Folk missed only 2 FG's under 50 yards and they were both blocked...

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-02-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keylime_5

Is it just me or did Calvin Johnson get way too much hype going into his rookie season or what? Sure he's good, but he's definitely not the next Moss like he was deemed during the draft season. If a guy is gonna be that good you usually can tell right away. Next Braylon Edwards probably, next Randy Moss, no.

I don't see why he can't be the next Moss. Great size, great speed, great jumping ability, great hands. He's got everything you look for.

mqtirishfan · 01-02-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Modano

Why? Crosby missed 8 FG, Folk 5... Folk missed only 2 FG's under 50 yards and they were both blocked...

Crosby led the NFC in scoring this year.

Burns336 · 01-02-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerToCJ

Hall got beat up early in the season because he had to start. 2nd half of the season he stepped it up and was very productive.

He had 27 more total tackles than Ross and 3 more pass deflections, Hall is VERY good in run D. I haven't seen Ross play much but there's a debate for Hall to be made.

27 more tackles could also mean he is getting thrown on more... Anyway, I had no idea he had stepped up. Last I heard was about him getting burned early and then the Bengals sorta fell off the radar.