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Old 01-03-2008, 03:01 AM    (permalink
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Uh Lofa Tatupu?.
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:06 PM    (permalink
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Lofa- 109 total tackles, 1 sack, 4 INTs
Ruud- 114 total tackles, 0 sacks, 2 INTs

What a horrible snub....
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:03 PM    (permalink
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All you asked was who he could be included in the pro-bowl over and I simply told you one of 2 possible answers.

And since when was the pro-bowl about statistics anyway?
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All you asked was who he could be included in the pro-bowl over and I simply told you one of 2 possible answers.

And since when was the pro-bowl about statistics anyway?
It's between that and reputation, and Lofa is more widely respected. I'm just saying that Ruud doesn't deserve to be there.
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It's between that and reputation, and Lofa is more widely respected. I'm just saying that Ruud doesn't deserve to be there.
No. Lofa is more popular. It is that simple.
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No. Lofa is more popular. It is that simple.
And had a better season. I don't see a problem.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:58 PM    (permalink
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I agree that Lofa is a horrible selection but Nick Barnett, EJ Henderson, London Fletcher, and maybe Urlacher should have gone before both Tatupu and Ruud. I'd put those 4 ahead of Willis too.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:35 PM    (permalink
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And had a better season. I don't see a problem.
If Ruud had been included over Tatupu I don't see how that would have been a huge problem either. They both had very similar seasons with the only major difference being INT's which isn't a huge indicator of success at MLB anyway.

The point is any of Tatupu, Willis, Henderson, Barnett, Urlacher, Beason and Ruud could have been selected. All had relatively similar statistics and all played well enough to play in the Pro-Bowl.
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Which has nothing to do with the point that someone said Ruud definitely should have been there.
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:20 PM    (permalink
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Ruud didn't deserve to make the Pro Bowl over any of those guys. He's had some nice FFs but other than that he's just a Tampa 2 MLB that racks up the tackles like he's supposed to. Solid but unspectacular. It took me a while to realize this because Quarles was so bad, but our MLBs are actually supposed to hog the stat sheet.
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Which has nothing to do with the point that someone said Ruud definitely should have been there.
And that is why we have the Pro-Bowl. So individuals can vote for who they think deserves to go to the Pro-Bowl.
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Ok seriously Jordan Gross 3 Sacks all year protecting a rookie, David Carr and Testaverde

Jon Beason as an alternate at least c'mon.
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