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Old 12-17-2006, 07:58 PM    (permalink
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Keep in mind that Gore is playing behind a makeshift OL. It's pretty impressive what he's done so far.
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Keep in mind that Gore is playing behind a makeshift OL. It's pretty impressive what he's done so far.
make shift? their OL is better than McGahee's and Edge's

Portis has the best line of all but they were never healthy when he was playing
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nobody will vote for portis since hes been hurt this season. Betts is a crappy backup and has been getting 100 yard games out of his butt. Portis will be back next year and everyone will hop off frank gore's nuts.
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nobody will vote for portis since hes been hurt this season. Betts is a crappy backup and has been getting 100 yard games out of his butt. Portis will be back next year and everyone will hop off frank gore's nuts.
No they won't, especially if Gore keeps putting up numbers like he has.
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Keep in mind that Gore is playing behind a makeshift OL. It's pretty impressive what he's done so far.

ironicly his line probly better than all other 3 backs
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nobody will vote for portis since hes been hurt this season. Betts is a crappy backup and has been getting 100 yard games out of his butt. Portis will be back next year and everyone will hop off frank gore's nuts.
No they won't, especially if Gore keeps putting up numbers like he has.
Gore's # get a little inflatted with big runs. ..against bad teams especially

AZ - long of 32 ... 87 yards
^18th

STL - long of 32 ... 127 yards
^31st ranked

PHI - long of 15...52 yards
^29th ranked

KC - long of 14...65 yards
^15th

OAK - long of 26..134 yards
^23rd

SD - long of 22..55 yards
^6th

CHI - long of 53...111 yards
^11th

MIN - long of 11....41 yards
^1st

DET - long of 61...159
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SEA - long of 52...212
^20th ranked

STL - long of 18...134
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NO - long of 12...40
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GB - long of 72...130
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nobody will vote for portis since hes been hurt this season. Betts is a crappy backup and has been getting 100 yard games out of his butt. Portis will be back next year and everyone will hop off frank gore's nuts.
No they won't, especially if Gore keeps putting up numbers like he has.
Gore's # get a little inflatted with big runs. ..against bad teams especially

AZ - long of 32 ... 87 yards
^18th

STL - long of 32 ... 127 yards
^31st ranked

PHI - long of 15...52 yards
^29th ranked

KC - long of 14...65 yards
^15th

OAK - long of 26..134 yards
^23rd

SD - long of 22..55 yards
^6th

CHI - long of 53...111 yards
^11th

MIN - long of 11....41 yards
^1st

DET - long of 61...159
^21st ranked

SEA - long of 52...212
^20th ranked

STL - long of 18...134
^31st ranked

NO - long of 12...40
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GB - long of 72...130
^16th

SEA - long of 40...144
^20th ranked
Inflated inshmated. The guy has been a beast this season, end of story.
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i know hes a beast...try to understand. im just saying if it werent for those stats that he got..you wouldnt say hes better than Portis or the other 2
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nobody will vote for portis since hes been hurt this season. Betts is a crappy backup and has been getting 100 yard games out of his butt. Portis will be back next year and everyone will hop off frank gore's nuts.
No they won't, especially if Gore keeps putting up numbers like he has.
Gore's # get a little inflatted with big runs. ..against bad teams especially

AZ - long of 32 ... 87 yards
^18th

STL - long of 32 ... 127 yards
^31st ranked

PHI - long of 15...52 yards
^29th ranked

KC - long of 14...65 yards
^15th

OAK - long of 26..134 yards
^23rd

SD - long of 22..55 yards
^6th

CHI - long of 53...111 yards
^11th

MIN - long of 11....41 yards
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DET - long of 61...159
^21st ranked

SEA - long of 52...212
^20th ranked

STL - long of 18...134
^31st ranked

NO - long of 12...40
^22nd

GB - long of 72...130
^16th

SEA - long of 40...144
^20th ranked
WHAT? Your list makes no sense. How does the fact that he breaks off long runs diminish his value? Should he just bust shorter runs? I have no idea what you're trying to say. Hey, I just watched LT bust an 85-yard run. He should stop doing that.
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i know hes a beast...try to understand. im just saying if it werent for those stats that he got..you wouldnt say hes better than Portis or the other 2
What else are we gonna use to compare players ... 40 times? Shuttle times?
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I like Frank Gore the best. He runs with the most power of this group, as well as the versatility that he brings. Health is the only thing that has hold him back.
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nobody will vote for portis since hes been hurt this season. Betts is a crappy backup and has been getting 100 yard games out of his butt. Portis will be back next year and everyone will hop off frank gore's nuts.
No they won't, especially if Gore keeps putting up numbers like he has.
Gore's # get a little inflatted with big runs. ..against bad teams especially

AZ - long of 32 ... 87 yards
^18th

STL - long of 32 ... 127 yards
^31st ranked

PHI - long of 15...52 yards
^29th ranked

KC - long of 14...65 yards
^15th

OAK - long of 26..134 yards
^23rd

SD - long of 22..55 yards
^6th

CHI - long of 53...111 yards
^11th

MIN - long of 11....41 yards
^1st

DET - long of 61...159
^21st ranked

SEA - long of 52...212
^20th ranked

STL - long of 18...134
^31st ranked

NO - long of 12...40
^22nd

GB - long of 72...130
^16th

SEA - long of 40...144
^20th ranked
WHAT? Your list makes no sense. How does the fact that he breaks off long runs diminish his value? Should he just bust shorter runs? I have no idea what you're trying to say. Hey, I just watched LT bust an 85-yard run. He should stop doing that.
no im just saying if he didnt verse such bad D's and break the long runs that we wouldnt even have this discussion.

you guys are basing his skill off stats. Portis is clearly the most talented back from Miami . Gore is clearly having the best season of them all. you cant judge off 1 season. we'll see next year. and then the next. and the next. whoever establishes themselves consistently will be the best

take Gore out. best RB from U between 2002-2005: Portis

best RB 2006: Gore

best RB 2007: give it time
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Portis is better than Gore at this point in their careers. Portis is a complete all-around back that does everything you can ask a runningback to do. Gore just started having big-time success this year and I can't realistically put him in the same league as Portis yet. We'll see how Gore does the next few years.
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This season

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^thats good. future comes down to Portis and Gore

Portis btw is the youngest to reach 5000 yards i believe
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Anyone remember all of the talk during the summer that Portis would break the all time rushing record?
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Anyone remember all of the talk during the summer that Portis would break the all time rushing record?
It's going to be tough to beat all-time rushing records in this day and age. Running backs wear down too quickly in the NFL and young blood seems to take over faster and faster every year.
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Anyone remember all of the talk during the summer that Portis would break the all time rushing record?
Which is why it, as in a Running Back's career 'pace,' is never a smart thing to do.
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It's going to be tough to beat all-time rushing records in this day and age. Running backs wear down too quickly in the NFL and young blood seems to take over faster and faster every year.
Yeah. And the main argument for it was Portis' age. But its not age that matters so much as carries and durability. Portis had showed even before this season that he wasn't the most durable of backs and wasn't going to be able to play for another 10 years.
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^thats good. future comes down to Portis and Gore

Portis btw is the youngest to reach 5000 yards i believe
Yeah, but with any team other than Denver and if he wasn't barely 20 when he started his NFL career that would be different. Denver makes Olandis Gary look good for crying out loud.

I agree that Portis is great and I had him as the number one rusher this season which obviously isn't happening due to injury. I had Gore finishing around 9th in rushing after the Barlow trade.

I don't think McGahee deserves so much credit because I have watched every single one of his NFL games so far as a Bills fan. He is a great back, but he won't do much unless he has good blocking and runs on the outside and gets 25 carries a game. If only he hadn't killed that knee, then again if it weren't for that he wouldn't have fallen to the Bills, so it worked out for the Bills I guess...

James to me hasn't been very good since his first major injury with the Colts, since then he has just been above average and not a top teir back, he was a a hall of fame pace but then he got hurt and was more of a multi pro bowler who might get a shot at the hall of fame in a very weak crop.

I think that I will withdraw my previous choice of Gore after thinking about it more and I think that Portis is the best of the bunch once again and he is my ultra ultra early pick for best back next year in terms of per game production at least because of his injury problems.

They are all great... pretty much I have Gore and Portis and then right behind them McGahee and James. I would like to see what Gore would be like without the injuries, that would just be scary :shock:
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^thats good. future comes down to Portis and Gore

Portis btw is the youngest to reach 5000 yards i believe
Yeah, but with any team other than Denver and if he wasn't barely 20 when he started his NFL career that would be different. Denver makes Olandis Gary look good for crying out loud.

I agree that Portis is great and I had him as the number one rusher this season which obviously isn't happening due to injury. I had Gore finishing around 9th in rushing after the Barlow trade.

I don't think McGahee deserves so much credit because I have watched every single one of his NFL games so far as a Bills fan. He is a great back, but he won't do much unless he has good blocking and runs on the outside and gets 25 carries a game. If only he hadn't killed that knee, then again if it weren't for that he wouldn't have fallen to the Bills, so it worked out for the Bills I guess...

James to me hasn't been very good since his first major injury with the Colts, since then he has just been above average and not a top teir back, he was a a hall of fame pace but then he got hurt and was more of a multi pro bowler who might get a shot at the hall of fame in a very weak crop.

I think that I will withdraw my previous choice of Gore after thinking about it more and I think that Portis is the best of the bunch once again and he is my ultra ultra early pick for best back next year in terms of per game production at least because of his injury problems.

They are all great... pretty much I have Gore and Portis and then right behind them McGahee and James. I would like to see what Gore would be like without the injuries, that would just be scary :shock:
or McGahee without the blown knee.

but its too late to say that. all 4 are very talented but at this point its Gore verse Portis
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