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Old 12-21-2006, 10:21 AM    (permalink
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Default Is Luis Castillo the best 3-4 DE in the league?

Ive debated this in my mind. If you watch Castillo play, he seems just as dominant if not more dominant than Seymour.

Seymours best numbers were 57 tackles in one season, and 8 sacks in one season. That was 3 years ago, and hasn't quite recaptured that magic since.

In Castillo's 2nd year alone, he has 37 tackles and 7 sacks, with 2 games left to play.

This year Seymour 35 tackles and 4 sacks.

I know Seymour is known for his versatility, but everything he does Castillo does as well. Couple that with a better pass rush, is it far fetched to say that right here right now Castillo is the best 3-4 DE in the league?
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I think it is a bit far fetched. Right now Castillo is playing with better talent all around on his defense than Seymour is. Teams look to make sure Seymour is taking care of first. On San Diego I think teams are more worried with Jamal Williams and Merriman.
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I think it is a bit far fetched. Right now Castillo is playing with better talent all around on his defense than Seymour is. Teams look to make sure Seymour is taking care of first. On San Diego I think teams are more worried with Jamal Williams and Merriman.
I think that has some relevance to it but I also think that NEs front 7 is the most underrated in the league.

Aferall, Seymour has Wilfork right next to him and Bruschi and Vrabel behind him.

Castillo is more fluid and more of a DE than Seymour is. I know a lot of it has to do with guys around them, but the difference isn't as large as you think.
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thats definatly an argument......... personally i think castillo is still youung and hasnt fufilled his potential yet, but where he is now, he could become better than seymour in the next 2 years
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It's worth mentioning that Castilllo has missed 4 games and has still put up those numbers. He's not even playing at 100 percent now that he's back.

He's pretty crazy. IMO his only competition is Igor Olshansky and Seymour.
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In general, I'd probably still take Richard Seymour, but Luis is getting close. I think the big difference is the NT they play with. Williams is far better than Wilfork, and I like Wilfork. But I think Williams is the best NT in the game right now, and does a good job of "freeing up" the ends somewhat. Teams gameplan for Seymour when they face the Pats, and as of now, they don't do that against Castillo yet. I'd have to go over somethings, but I do think I'd still take Seymour in a neutral environment.
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Remember guys, he missed 4 games....and he has 7 sacks and 37 tackles! Thats damn impressive.

And think about this. The year Seymour exploded with 8 sacks and 55 tackles, he had Ted Washington at NT and Willie McGinnest at LB with Bruschi and Vrabel behind him. Thats a TON of star talent, just as much if not more than Castillo.

And Castillo was on pace to shatter those numbers had he stayed healthy this year. I think thats damn impressive.
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Really? My coworkers were laughing their butt off. My bad guys.
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Yeah as of right now I'll say Seymour, but Castillo is on his way
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