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View Poll Results: Kiper v Mayock
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Kiper Jr
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Mayock
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Chuck Norris!
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Todd McShay (Click if stupid)
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02-17-2008, 11:03 PM
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The Professor (Hall of Famer)
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I voted McShay because I think it's funny how everyone hates McShay.
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02-17-2008, 11:11 PM
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i resisted looking at this thread, i resisted looking at this thread...i should have definitely not looked at it....
while i am fully aware the draft's current status has a whole lot to do with mel kiper, i severely dislike the guy....
he'll put out 8 different mock drafts and have the same team take 8 different players. then if he even got it right once in those 8 times, he claims hes right and accurate. then, if the team doesnt take who he essentially commands them to take, he gets upset. the guys a loon and the way so so many people talk him up....ugh....it sickens me.
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02-17-2008, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Im_a_Romosexual
Scott Wright.
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You have a bit of brown on your nose, you may want to get that off...
I said Maycock, I think he is very inteligent about draftpicks. Im not much of a Kiper fan.
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02-17-2008, 11:50 PM
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well I dont have NFL network so no Mayock. No ESPN insider so no Kiper, but I would put a little favorism towards him between the two. Chuck Norris is overrated and McShay is a bumbling fool. Which only leaves the one person I get my draft info from Scott Wright.
Basically, he's where I get my draft coverage, so I chose him
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02-17-2008, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Im_a_Romosexual
well I dont have NFL network so no Mayock. No ESPN insider so no Kiper, but I would put a little favorism towards him between the two. Chuck Norris is overrated and McShay is a bumbling fool. Which only leaves the one person I get my draft info from Scott Wright.
Basically, he's where I get my draft coverage, so I chose him
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02-17-2008, 11:51 PM
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I personally think the Chuck Norris jokes stopped being funny about two years ago as well.
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02-17-2008, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
I personally think the Chuck Norris jokes stopped being funny about two years ago as well.
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I'm honestly yet to see the humour in them.
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02-18-2008, 02:59 AM
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yeah you are right about the norris jokes. change chuck norris with uri geller and for pure predictions i miss jon kitna on that list.
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02-18-2008, 03:18 AM
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I find Mayocks opinions interesting but I usually think hes wrong.I'll say Kiper.
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02-18-2008, 04:33 AM
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how about that dude who's really good at draft mocks... Gosselin I think his name was...
*googles Gosselin*
Rick Gosselin, of Dallas news, he's been pretty spot on in mocks.
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02-18-2008, 05:11 AM
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Who was Kiper's greatest hit and greatest miss?
Who was Mayock's greatest hit and greatest miss?
Here is article breaking down Mel
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...fl-draft/5104/
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02-18-2008, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend
Kiper is the godfather of the draft, but Mayock is alot more informative to me, Kiper has gone into doing mocks about politics, not evaluting talent, some of his early mocks are way off, even though by the draft he is closer on, but he hasnt been the most informative guy the past few years...I still watch him on draft day because its like dick clark on new years eve, but I go to Mayock when I want to learn something I didnt already know.
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Kiper definitely understands the politics of the draft better, but as far as pure prospect analysis...Mayock by a mile.
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02-18-2008, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathbyStat
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nice find, basically mel, like anyother evaluator, will be right and wrong. Though it did seem like when he was right about underated players, he was right in a big way. (Kampman, Steve Smith, Chad)
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02-18-2008, 11:19 PM
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Mel Kiper, It wouldnt be the same watching the draft without him.
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02-20-2008, 07:38 AM
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MAyock he seems like he is more concentratred on the player and overall knowledge of how teams work.
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02-20-2008, 08:56 AM
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i would have to say Kiper for me
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02-20-2008, 09:07 AM
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I like Kiper a little bit more than Mayock.
I cant stand McShay, and Chuck, well Chuck should be excluded because he's the best at everything.
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