Best QB In NFC North - Page 5

vikes_28 · 03-11-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Grossman would pop a boner just thinking about it.

So would Jackson.

Twiddler · 03-11-2008, 03:50 PM

1a. Kitna
1b. Orton/Grossman
3. Jackson
4. Rodgers (incomplete)

I'm not sold on Jackson yet being anything special and Kitna, Orton, and Grossman are all lumped together into a blob of mediocrity. A few years ago I would have said Kitna was better than those two but now I see no reason to say that. And I do believe that Rodgers can jump to #1 after this season but theres literally no proof to think that is the case now. Like BF51 said, he's had one really good game and two bad ones, there's nothing to judge him on.

Thunder&Lightning · 03-11-2008, 07:39 PM

1.Kitna
2.Rodgers
3.Jackson
4.Grossman

bearsfan_51 · 03-11-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vikes_29

So would Jackson.

Jackson would still jump in the air for no reason and throw it twenty feet over anyone's head. I have to watch the Vikings every week and I'm amazed at how completely inept he is. Grossman got more of a spotlight because the Bears were a Superbowl team, but Jackson is just absurdly terrible. They ask him to do next to nothing and he still can't do that.

There's a reason why Brad Childress wanted Sage Rosenfels to be the starter next year.

neko4 · 03-11-2008, 09:50 PM

Notable backup QB's
Trent Dilfer
Shaun Hill
Kurt Warner
Trent Green
Charlie Frye
Seneca Wallace
Byron Leftwich
David Carr
Chris Simms
Bruce Gradkowski
Luke McCown
Todd Collins
Hefty Lefty
Aj Feeley
Brad Johnson
Josh McCown
Damon Huard
Kyle Boller
Charlie Batch
Brady Quinn
JP Losman
Chad Pennington
Cleo Lemon
Jim Sorgi
Sage Rosenfels
Kerry Collins
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey

How many of them would be the best QB in the division if they were actually in the division

GB12 · 03-11-2008, 09:53 PM

Warner and possibly Pennington.

neko4 · 03-11-2008, 09:54 PM

i can see rosenfels and maybe Losmon on Green Bay or Detroit

bearsfan_51 · 03-11-2008, 09:55 PM

Quinn could be. As a prospect I like him more than Rodgers, and Rodgers certainly has the potential to be the best.

Boston · 03-11-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Jackson would still jump in the air for no reason and throw it twenty feet over anyone's head. I have to watch the Vikings every week and I'm amazed at how completely inept he is. Grossman got more of a spotlight because the Bears were a Superbowl team, but Jackson is just absurdly terrible. They ask him to do next to nothing and he still can't do that.

There's a reason why Brad Childress wanted Sage Rosenfels to be the starter next year.

Poor Vikings fans are going to have this bookmarked for a WHILE.

neko4 · 03-11-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Quinn could be. As a prospect I like him more than Rodgers, and Rodgers certainly has the potential to be the best.

I feel the same way. I wish we wouldve waited till last years draft and got Quinn, or the draft before and got Cutler. But im happy with Rodgers

bearsfan_51 · 03-12-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston

Poor Vikings fans are going to have this bookmarked for a WHILE.

Hey I mean...he could turn it around. Steve Young went from bumbling mess to Hall of Famer.

I mean...I don't think he will....but he could.

The book on Grossman, on the other hand, is probably closed as ever being much more than he is. I'll give Tavaris this year before I totally write him off.

vikes_28 · 03-13-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston

Poor Vikings fans are going to have this bookmarked for a WHILE.

yeah...unfortunatly we will because tavaris jackson does suck. i dont think he knows his stuff that well.

04-03-2008, 09:31 AM

Jackson gets this year as the final judgement but in all honesty unless he pulls something amazing you got to think he is out. Vikings dont need a project at qb.

ChezPower4 · 04-03-2008, 01:33 PM

Im gonna have to say Jon Kitna this year if he can stay healthy

umphrey · 04-03-2008, 01:36 PM

Preseason
1. Kitna
2. Jackson
3. Rodgers
4. Bears

Postseason
1. Rodgers
2. Jackson
3. Kitna
4. Bears

ChefMike · 04-04-2008, 05:26 PM

I think this division needs to just add an extra blocker on the edge and get rid of their QB's ?!?! just snap the ball direct to a RB and let them make a play ! The QB's in the division are piss poor, Orton, Grossman, Kitna (Overrated), Rodgers (Unproven), Jackson ( WAY Overrated) come on Kitna is the best of the group and he is only good if you let him pray in between plays and has Mike Martz calling plays...

Crazy_Chris · 04-04-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefMike

I think this division needs to just add an extra blocker on the edge and get rid of their QB's ?!?! just snap the ball direct to a RB and let them make a play ! The QB's in the division are piss poor, Orton, Grossman, Kitna (Overrated), Rodgers (Unproven), Jackson ( WAY Overrated) come on Kitna is the best of the group and he is only good if you let him pray in between plays and has Mike Martz calling plays...

How is Jackson "WAY Overrated" when the majority feel that he is not a good QB?

Addict · 04-05-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy_Chris

How is Jackson "WAY Overrated" when the majority feel that he is not a good QB?

well appearently 'not good' is still overrating him in his mind.

asmitty45 · 04-06-2008, 02:42 PM

I guess it'd be Kitna right now, which is soooo sad. Cuz Jackson is not very good, Grossman is Grossman and Rodgers is completely unproven.

Nevermind, as long as Favre's still GB's property he's the best QB in this division, retired or not.

EvilMonkey · 04-07-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by asmitty45

I guess it'd be Kitna right now, which is soooo sad. Cuz Jackson is not very good, Grossman is Grossman and Rodgers is completely unproven.

Nevermind, as long as Favre's still GB's property he's the best QB in this division, retired or not.

yup, retirement papers arent filed yet, Favre is still the best.

BeerBaron · 04-10-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by umphrey

Preseason
1. Kitna
2. Jackson
3. Rodgers
4. Bears

Postseason
1. Rodgers
2. Jackson
3. Kitna
4. Bears

completely asinine. until tavaris and rodgers win the division (kyle orton) or reach the SB (rexy) theres no way anyone can take jackson or rodgers over them.

go ahead and say they had a great defense. sure they did. minny has a hell of a run game and an excellent run defense but tavaris couldnt do anything with them. and rodgers is completely unproven, no one can take him over anyone else atm.

Dr. Gonzo · 04-11-2008, 01:22 PM

Right now I would probably put Jackson at the bottom of the list but I think that if he develops like he should he can be the best in the division, thats not saying much though.

Packman1957 · 04-11-2008, 02:55 PM

I'm being honest when I say I would take Aaron Rodgers over any quarterback in the NFC North, if he is anywhere near as good as I think he is anyway...

Crazy_Chris · 04-11-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

completely asinine. until tavaris and rodgers win the division (kyle orton) or reach the SB (rexy) theres no way anyone can take jackson or rodgers over them.

go ahead and say they had a great defense. sure they did. minny has a hell of a run game and an excellent run defense but tavaris couldnt do anything with them. and rodgers is completely unproven, no one can take him over anyone else atm.

Now that statement is completely asinine winning the divison or reaching the super bowl does not alone make them better. By your logic I guess Rex Grossman is a better QB than any QB that hasn't reached the super bowl huh watch out Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, ETC.

BeerBaron · 04-11-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy_Chris

Now that statement is completely asinine winning the divison or reaching the super bowl does not alone make them better. By your logic I guess Rex Grossman is a better QB than any QB that hasn't reached the super bowl huh watch out Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, ETC.

for this division, they are the only QBs in it to do that. no theyre not better than other guys outside of it, but theyve done more than rodgers and jackson.

everyone just wants to pull down their pants and take a huge crap all over the bears QBs while they fail to realize their guys havent done as much