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Old 03-22-2008, 01:09 AM    (permalink
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Unfortunately for them they are still not the best team in the division much less the NFL. San Diego has actually been able to draft their talent and therefore is paying less for players that are better.
I'm sorry, what do you call Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard, Tommy Kelly, Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter, Zach Miller, Nnamdi Asomugha and Justin Fargas?


It is ridiculous to say that a team needs to use only the draft for their players. Even the Patriots make outside moves. (Harrison, Colvin, Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Gaffney, Seau, A. Thomas, Vrabel, etc.) Those are 9 key players right there, including their top 4 WRs and 4 of their top 5 LBs.
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:44 PM    (permalink
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Not sure he's making more than Briggs, considering it being an extension and the last two years of his rookie contract remain - although surely money was moved around, namely him receiving right now new money from this extension. Let's say the total is 8 years, 41.5M .. that's less than Briggs on a per average level. Which is fitting.
What are you talking about? He would have been under contract for the next two years either way, thus when talking about the deal, you're talking about what's added on to it. The Seahawks just purchased his services for an additional 6 years at 41 million overall and 16 million guaranteed. That's more than the Bears paid for Briggs for the next 6 years. The fact that the Hawks actually had Lofa by the nuts for the next two years should have actually decreased his overall gain, not lessened it. There's no other way of looking at it.
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What are you talking about? He would have been under contract for the next two years either way, thus when talking about the deal, you're talking about what's added on to it. The Seahawks just purchased his services for an additional 6 years at 41 million overall and 16 million guaranteed. That's more than the Bears paid for Briggs for the next 6 years. The fact that the Hawks actually had Lofa by the nuts for the next two years should have actually decreased his overall gain, not lessened it. There's no other way of looking at it.

Yeah, thats how the 49ers had Frank Gore. They were able to lock him in at 5 mil per year, which was under his market value, due to controlling his rights for 2 more years.

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Merriman is going to get an insane deal in a couple years. The Chargers will have to re-sign him, McNeil, Rivers, Cromartie, Castillo and Jackson among others so I think they might have to tag him if he's asking for too much.
Same goes for Ware in Dallas, but regardless of the market I dont think certain guys will be let go...Id like to think the Chargers will pay up for Merriman as im sure Dallas will do with Ware pretty soon.


Certain guys I think teams will find a way to pony up the cash for.
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:17 PM    (permalink
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What are you talking about? He would have been under contract for the next two years either way, thus when talking about the deal, you're talking about what's added on to it. The Seahawks just purchased his services for an additional 6 years at 41 million overall and 16 million guaranteed. That's more than the Bears paid for Briggs for the next 6 years. The fact that the Hawks actually had Lofa by the nuts for the next two years should have actually decreased his overall gain, not lessened it. There's no other way of looking at it.
I'm talking about dollars and ... well, many more dollars rather than cents. Tatupu is signed through 2015, at 42M plus the remainder of his rookie contract - which probably puts the total around 43.5M.

43.5/8 < 36/6.
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Yeah except to include the years remaining on his rookie contract is totally arbitrary and makes no sense. We are comparing the two deals. He was already under contract, so his new deal has nothing to do with with his rookie contract, other than it was a negotiating tool for the Seahawks.
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Agree to rarely disagree, I suppose. The fact that this is an extension as opposed to a whole new deal is very important, because Tatupu isn't worth 6 years/42M imo. But 43.5M or 44M over 8 years, he is.

Though I'll agree that if he had probably played out his contract, he might have received more than 6 years/42M on the open market in 2010. With the way contracts are increasing in line with the cap.

Some guys take the security of a new deal now.
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Good to see he is gonna be a lifetime hawk. Leader of our defense and is worth every penny.
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I personally think Tatupu is a bit overrated but when you see most of the Seahawk fans applauding the deal its hard to argue against it. I see where BF51 is coming from in terms of having two years remaining on his rookie contract, but who knows how ridiculous the FA market will be in 2 years. Since they did not pay through their nose and kept a player they like you have to say it is a good signing.
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Id like to think the Chargers will pay up for Merriman as im sure Dallas will do with Ware pretty soon.
I would be down right shocked if either hits the FA market I could see either one getting tagged but thats all.
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Contract seems fair glad for both of them
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