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Old 03-29-2008, 11:35 PM    (permalink
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They had money. They are using it to win more games. I don't see the issue. I don't like the Javon Walker money amount but the signing is fine, and DeAngelo Hall was an outstanding move. They need more pass rush so they get Kalimba Edwards. They needed a safety to pair with Huff so they went out and got Wilson, even if the price was bad. The only thing I have an issue with his Tommy Kelly, who has no great accomplishment in his career and is now the highest paid defensive tackle in the history of the NFL.
"highest paid defensive tackle" is hyperbole, if the best DT in the league were a FA this year, in this market, with the hike in the salary cap then he would be the highest paid DT in the league.
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"highest paid defensive tackle" is hyperbole, if the best DT in the league were a FA this year, in this market, with the hike in the salary cap then he would be the highest paid DT in the league.
Kelly isn't even a top 20 or 30 DT in the league, so this doesn't help your case. Kelly couldn't play DT or DE for you guys and now is making that amount of money? please.
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Kelly isn't even a top 20 or 30 DT in the league, so this doesn't help your case. Kelly couldn't play DT or DE for you guys and now is making that amount of money? please.
i agree with you. out of every signing we had this was our worst. he hasnt produced alot so far even though he has good potenial. this could really back fire on us. id be happier letting him go and not signing him and draft dorsey or ellis
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Kelly isn't even a top 20 or 30 DT in the league, so this doesn't help your case. Kelly couldn't play DT or DE for you guys and now is making that amount of money? please.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.....So why act like you do?
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Kelly was easily our best DT this past year I dont know what your talking about when you say that he couldnt play DT for us.

On a side note this offseason has pretty much sucked for Oakland.We got some good but very injury prone WRs.Kwame Harris who just sucks.Kalimba Edwards who sucks.Kelly we overpaid.
Even the Deangelo Hall trade sucked.We never needed him.Fabs was good enough.The Giants didnt win the SB because they had two shutdown corners.They won it because they were able to get to the QB.We never needed Hall.Our pass D was good.But our run D was awful and still is awful our pass rush also sucks.So what do we do?We ******* sign Edwards and William Joseph.Wow that helps.Deangelo Hall isnt going to rush the QB and he isnt going to help that much in the run D.So we traded a 2nd rounder for someone we didnt need.The 2nd rounder could have gotten us a run stuffer or a pass rusher.Or someone to help protect Jamarcus.But what the hell Jamarcus has got Kwame Harris to protect him.Our next pick after the first round is a 4th round pick.After that we have 2 7th rounders.We'll be able to solve all of our problems with those picks.Odds are we are going to draft McFadden a guy who is overated and a guy we really dont need and we'll adress our needs with a 4th and 2 7th rounders.Although we'll probably spend one of those picks on a track star who cant play football.
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Kelly isn't even a top 20 or 30 DT in the league, so this doesn't help your case. Kelly couldn't play DT or DE for you guys and now is making that amount of money? please.
He couldn't play DE or DT? What are you even talking about? Kelly played in 49 staight games until he got hurt, over the last 4 years he has been just about as productive as Williams, Rogers, and Jenkins. You can't name 10 DTs who were much more productive over the last 4 years. Let alone 20 or 30. And Kelly hasn't even been playing his best position those 4 years.

But obviously you didn't even understand what the post you responded to was saying.
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Kelly was easily our best DT this past year I dont know what your talking about when you say that he couldnt play DT for us.

On a side note this offseason has pretty much sucked for Oakland.We got some good but very injury prone WRs.Kwame Harris who just sucks.Kalimba Edwards who sucks.Kelly we overpaid.
Even the Deangelo Hall trade sucked.We never needed him.Fabs was good enough.The Giants didnt win the SB because they had two shutdown corners.They won it because they were able to get to the QB.We never needed Hall.Our pass D was good.But our run D was awful and still is awful our pass rush also sucks.So what do we do?We ******* sign Edwards and William Joseph.Wow that helps.Deangelo Hall isnt going to rush the QB and he isnt going to help that much in the run D.So we traded a 2nd rounder for someone we didnt need.The 2nd rounder could have gotten us a run stuffer or a pass rusher.Or someone to help protect Jamarcus.But what the hell Jamarcus has got Kwame Harris to protect him.Our next pick after the first round is a 4th round pick.After that we have 2 7th rounders.We'll be able to solve all of our problems with those picks.Odds are we are going to draft McFadden a guy who is overated and a guy we really dont need and we'll adress our needs with a 4th and 2 7th rounders.Although we'll probably spend one of those picks on a track star who cant play football.
Even if you were set at CB you make that trade for DeAngelo Hall. It was just too good of a deal to pass up. Really, I doubt you regret it.
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If he were he would either have better options or more money.
Thats why he signed, but when you get cut by the Lions you may not be very good.
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Even if you were set at CB you make that trade for DeAngelo Hall. It was just too good of a deal to pass up. Really, I doubt you regret it.
i agree, trading for hall is probably the only signing we wont regret making or that has the least chance of.
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Thats why he signed, but when you get cut by the Lions you may not be very good.
Seeing as how my team signed him, I wish that didn't make so much damn sense.
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