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Old 09-23-2013, 01:22 PM    (permalink
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Elliott and Gretchen are trying to put distance from Walt and the meth business because they are tied to it. Lydia works for them. This is the big twist. They are the cause of Walt's breaking bad from beginning (taking his work, boastfully offering charity) to the end (distributing his product even after he's gone). Folks, it's happening.
Lydia doesn't work for grey matter. She works with the train company or something like that.
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I was being facetious JVig you ****. Elliot and Gretchen are still ******* slimeballs and for sure ****** over Walt. Maybe he was just young and hurt badly by Elliot swooping in and stealing Gretchen but I think it was something more.

Flynn ******* pisses me off. Be a man and accept the money for your sister and mother because there is no way your crippled ass can provide for them. His hero worship of Hank was always hilarious to me. I mean I understand why he was a ***** because he is so sheltered but still.
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Elliott and Gretchen are trying to put distance from Walt and the meth business because they are tied to it. Lydia works for them. This is the big twist. They are the cause of Walt's breaking bad from beginning (taking his work, boastfully offering charity) to the end (distributing his product even after he's gone). Folks, it's happening.
That's the type of insane restructuring of the entire series that's just not gonna happen. For that to be the case, Walt's entire plight basically becomes a pre-destined circle where he never had any of the autonomy he fought to establish as a drug lord.

It'd also be incredibly lame. Gretchen and Elliott have been way too far to the margins of the show to ultimately be revealed as hidden masterminds of an improbable plot. For your prediction to prove true, you'd have to believe Elliott and Gretchen sought revenge against Walt by secretly subjecting him to meth cooking from the very start of Gus Fring's introduction to the show. Nope.
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And I'm sticking with my original season-opening prediction that Walt ingests the ricin himself, but it isn't revealed to the audience until the end once we've witnessed him succeed at whatever his plot is regarding the M-60.
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I think Jesse ends up smoking the ricin like a suicidal badass after the action has died down.

Close second is that it goes to an oblivious Todd taking it off Walt, who might just be dead.
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No one was ever going to "smoke the ricin." It was merely stored in the cigarette. It was in a glass vial. You couldn't pull out that cigarette from the pack and not realize it was hollowed out and filled with something else.
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I was being facetious JVig you ****. Elliot and Gretchen are still ******* slimeballs and for sure ****** over Walt. Maybe he was just young and hurt badly by Elliot swooping in and stealing Gretchen but I think it was something more.

Flynn ******* pisses me off. Be a man and accept the money for your sister and mother because there is no way your crippled ass can provide for them. His hero worship of Hank was always hilarious to me. I mean I understand why he was a ***** because he is so sheltered but still.
I just dont buy that about them until we know for sure. Thus far the constant has been Walt's ego through it all, even prior to him turning this bad. Even if it was charity, just accept it and then you have your whole life with your family as is and you get the help you need to continue providing for them. Accepting charity from people who *may* have screwed you over is a far better option than the path he chose to pursue. Hence why I'm not sold that he was the one who got screwed over, it seems to me he screwed himself from what we know and hes angry and taking it out on them. I just dont see where "slimeballs" is coming from outside of Walt's perception of it.

And Walt jr should have just stuck with breakfast.
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The way they acted at the party. I understand its for business, still slimy though. Elliot at least stole Gretchen from Walt and the whole ego thing came into play. I think it is very possible though that it was more. When I say steal obviously Gretchen decided she didn't want to be with Walt but its a sticky situation with something like that involves two best friends and a girl.
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The way they acted at the party. I understand its for business, still slimy though. Elliot at least stole Gretchen from Walt and the whole ego thing came into play. I think it is very possible though that it was more. When I say steal obviously Gretchen decided she didn't want to be with Walt but its a sticky situation with something like that involves two best friends and a girl.
Agreed completely, but Gretchen did say when Walt met her that it was Walt who left her, and Walt has never denied that. Which again, makes me think it was on Walt and he is now angry at them for his own decisions. I could be wrong but from what we know Walt was the one who left her and the one to sell his own share of the company, and then they came to the rescue when he needed help and he turned them away. My personal view is that this was just Walt's ego all along even prior to his Heisenberg rebirth.
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No one was ever going to "smoke the ricin." It was merely stored in the cigarette. It was in a glass vial. You couldn't pull out that cigarette from the pack and not realize it was hollowed out and filled with something else.
Todd could.
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I think Lydia dies by the hands of Todd. She is probably going to insult him or something, and **** will get real.
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Everyone keeps saying "Walt is going to kill the nazi's."

How? He's completely alone with one gun.
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And also science.
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Because it's not over until he says its over??
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I actually kind of like Todd.
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Todd is awesome. I don't know how anyone could not like Todd.
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He killed a kid.

That would do it for most people.
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He saw a threat, he dealt with the threat.
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I really wish they had brought Todd in a long time ago. His character could easily rival Walt, Jesse and Gus if done properly. Sure he is a dead eyed Opie asshole but he is clearly ****** up on so many levels. I watched last nights episode and I kept saying this dude is seriously a ******* psychopath. Alas I just wish there was more development...
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Todd executed a woman for the sole purpose of torturing Jesse. That alone makes him a hated character.
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Who the hell is dumb enough to doubt Walt at this point?
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That would do it for most people.
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I love the show for the characters. Todd is a great character.
He really is. I'm glued to the screen every time he's on it.
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Everyone keeps saying "Walt is going to kill the nazi's."

How? He's completely alone with one gun.
Well, if he took them by surprise, it's technically possible.

But I could also envision Jesse being able to aid Walt's attack against the Nazis.

It'd be a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," for Jesse and Walt. Then they have a final confrontation after their mutual enemy is defeated.
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Who the hell is dumb enough to doubt Walt at this point?
I'm not doubting him. Obviously that's how this show is going to play out. I'm looking for a prediction. Because at this point the deck is stacked against him big-time.
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