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Old 12-03-2006, 05:51 PM    (permalink
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Jacob is my favorite player out of these three. But I would love to have any of these guys on The Raiders. They're all future stars and I dont know why Orange Julius starts over MBIII...

Jacobs showed some speed against Dallas today, took a little screen pass for like 35 yds.

MBIII is a helluva blocker too.
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Yep, I agree. MB3 > JJ. Definitely.

As a Viking fan, MB3 > Chester Taylor. In that draft we traded up in the 4th round to take Ciatrick Fason. Look at this chunk of picks:

109 Dallas Marion Barber RB Minnesota
110 N.Y. Giants Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois
111 Arizona Elton Brown G Virginia
112 Minnesota Ciatrick Fason RB Florida

The (now fired) Vikings staff have pie on their faces. They should traded up a little more and nabbed one of those two, preferably MB3. Had they traded up for MB3, I think he would be the franchise back of this team, because as I said MB3 > Chester Taylor. What a pity.
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I would take Brandon Jacobs. He is probably not the fastest but he is obviously the biggest. He can also catch the ball decently, its the one thing that none of them really do that often, but from what I have seen of Jacobs he seems better than both Turner and Barber save the Thanks Giving masacre vs. the Bucs.

Jacobs runs with authority and won't go down. I know that all three of these guys are physical power backs, but you can't ignore Jacobs size advantage and his highlight reel of plowing people. To be honest I wouldn't want any of these backups starting for my team, I would prefer a healthy Greg Jones over all of them, he is pretty much a shorter Brandon Jacobs who doesn't leave himself as open for injuries (I know he is often injured).

I have no idea how any of these guys pass block because they aren't usually in the game on passing downs. I personally would take Brandon Jacobs of the three offered, but as for other backup running backs I would take ahead of these guys: Greg Jones, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ladell Betts. Maybe someone should make a thread about which backup running back you would take for a starter.
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After what I saw today, I know that Jacobs is a STUD. He was the only Giant that I was afraid of. They should have used him more. I'm glad they didn't though.
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I would take Brandon Jacobs. He is probably not the fastest but he is obviously the biggest. He can also catch the ball decently, its the one thing that none of them really do that often, but from what I have seen of Jacobs he seems better than both Turner and Barber save the Thanks Giving masacre vs. the Bucs.

Jacobs runs with authority and won't go down. I know that all three of these guys are physical power backs, but you can't ignore Jacobs size advantage and his highlight reel of plowing people. To be honest I wouldn't want any of these backups starting for my team, I would prefer a healthy Greg Jones over all of them, he is pretty much a shorter Brandon Jacobs who doesn't leave himself as open for injuries (I know he is often injured).

I have no idea how any of these guys pass block because they aren't usually in the game on passing downs. I personally would take Brandon Jacobs of the three offered, but as for other backup running backs I would take ahead of these guys: Greg Jones, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ladell Betts. Maybe someone should make a thread about which backup running back you would take for a starter.
from this post alone I can tell you don't watch many Cowboys games or you dont pay attention. Barber is in on just as many pass plays as Julius. Also he is the 3rd down running back, because he is good at recieving and pass protection.
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I would take Brandon Jacobs. He is probably not the fastest but he is obviously the biggest. He can also catch the ball decently, its the one thing that none of them really do that often, but from what I have seen of Jacobs he seems better than both Turner and Barber save the Thanks Giving masacre vs. the Bucs.

Jacobs runs with authority and won't go down. I know that all three of these guys are physical power backs, but you can't ignore Jacobs size advantage and his highlight reel of plowing people. To be honest I wouldn't want any of these backups starting for my team, I would prefer a healthy Greg Jones over all of them, he is pretty much a shorter Brandon Jacobs who doesn't leave himself as open for injuries (I know he is often injured).

I have no idea how any of these guys pass block because they aren't usually in the game on passing downs. I personally would take Brandon Jacobs of the three offered, but as for other backup running backs I would take ahead of these guys: Greg Jones, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ladell Betts. Maybe someone should make a thread about which backup running back you would take for a starter.
Your crazy if you think Betts is better than Jacobs/Turner/MBIII..He's had a nice couple of games, but long-term, these other players are franchise guys. Greg Jones is such a hog, just wish he could play a full season. I like watching him dish out punishment.
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I would take Brandon Jacobs. He is probably not the fastest but he is obviously the biggest. He can also catch the ball decently, its the one thing that none of them really do that often, but from what I have seen of Jacobs he seems better than both Turner and Barber save the Thanks Giving masacre vs. the Bucs.

Jacobs runs with authority and won't go down. I know that all three of these guys are physical power backs, but you can't ignore Jacobs size advantage and his highlight reel of plowing people. To be honest I wouldn't want any of these backups starting for my team, I would prefer a healthy Greg Jones over all of them, he is pretty much a shorter Brandon Jacobs who doesn't leave himself as open for injuries (I know he is often injured).

I have no idea how any of these guys pass block because they aren't usually in the game on passing downs. I personally would take Brandon Jacobs of the three offered, but as for other backup running backs I would take ahead of these guys: Greg Jones, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ladell Betts. Maybe someone should make a thread about which backup running back you would take for a starter.
Your crazy if you think Betts is better than Jacobs/Turner/MBIII..He's had a nice couple of games, but long-term, these other players are franchise guys. Greg Jones is such a hog, just wish he could play a full season. I like watching him dish out punishment.
I would prefer Betts and Jones both as backups, but I just really liked them in college and their limited success' in the NFL.
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Jacob is my favorite player out of these three. But I would love to have any of these guys on The Raiders. They're all future stars and I dont know why Orange Julius starts over MBIII...

Jacobs showed some speed against Dallas today, took a little screen pass for like 35 yds.

MBIII is a helluva blocker too.
Jacobs might actually be the fastest of the three. Not sure about Turner but he is definately faster the MBIII.
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Yeah thats what I thought,

Turner down the road is going to be the best out of all three of them.

Barber right now is the best, awesome on short field postion.

Jacobs IMO could be the next Bus or better.
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All 3 are kick ass. I wouldn't mind having any of the 3.
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If I'm the Giants, I'm offering Brandon Jacobs to San Diego in exchange for Michael Turner...and praying they take it. I think both sides would benefit from that. Turner is a better every down RB that could step in nicely for a departed Tiki. Jacobs could be that short yardage runner to ease the load on LT... and stop him from being such a damaging fantasy player. lol.
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If I'm the Giants, I'm offering Brandon Jacobs to San Diego in exchange for Michael Turner...and praying they take it. I think both sides would benefit from that. Turner is a better every down RB that could step in nicely for a departed Tiki. Jacobs could be that short yardage runner to ease the load on LT... and stop him from being such a damaging fantasy player. lol.
No way, not straight up.

I'd ask for a day one pick on top of that at least. Jacobs is such a valuable asset to our offense. Best short yardage back in the NFL.
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Check out these videos of Jacobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUsWASF06tc

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Great thread, so far. Even though I'm a Cowboy fan, I voted for Jacobs. Barber is the better player right now, I think. He can do way more, and he seems to just get the job done, no matter what. But Jacobs is a unique physical specimen that might end up being something quite special. You just won't see many guys that size that can run and have the vision and agility to play the position.

He might never turn out to be more than just a short yardage type, or even a "thunder" that must be complimented by some sort of "lightning", but if he does develop, he has a chance to be an absolute terror in this league for a long time. That said, Barber can do more to help a team right now, while Turner may end up being the best of all when it is all said and done.
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I had to cast my vote for Jacobs. Dude is just a beast in the backfield. If I were I giants fan, I'd be looking for a backup to him this offseason.

Turner is a very good back with great speed. Even though he has good size, he does not run like a bruiser. He is more of a finesse runner.

Barber is a very well rounded back and may be the most pollished of the three, but I'm not sure of his ability to handle the full workload of a true #1 back as throughout his career, both at Minnesota and with Dallas, he has shared carries in a two back system. This is not necessarily a bad thing as he has excelled, but it makes me wonder if he could handle 25+ carries a game for an entire season.

Prior to this week I may have listed them Barber, Jacobs, Turner, but after seeing Jacobs catch well and show his speed, he has swayed my vote. I truely believe he can be a starter in this league much like what we used to have in Bettis. If you let him start the game and feed him a steady diet of carries in the first half, by the end of the third quarter people will be getting out of his way and trying to grab at his feet. Sure he runs a lttle high, and at 6'4" it's hard not to, and that may leave him open to more hits that may hurt other smaller backs, but when you consider the fact that he's as big or bigger than most of the people hitting him, it becomes less of an issue.
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I'm betting alot of people would rather have Turner now?
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Turner>Barber+Jacobs, it is not even close.
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I would rather Jacobs then Barber then Turner.

And don't be ridiculous PACKmanN, how is it not even close??
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This is actually an interesting topic to bring back up. I'd take Marion in the right offense and then Jacobs because he's such a pounding back. I would only take Jacobs if I had a nice change of pace back. For some reason I'm not a huge fan of Turner although he is good. Tough question and the order will vary depending on who you ask.
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1. Jacobs
2. MB3
3. Turner

not based on this year only.
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Turner da Burner fo shurner. :D
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Barber is a far superior pass blocker and pass catcher to Jacobs. Jacobs though will have a much longer and productive career because he gets less carries. Guys like Barber and Portis though will be sitting in rocking chairs at age 45.
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