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Old 06-04-2007, 02:23 PM    (permalink
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Wow. That seems like alot more than most people were expecting. I think its great. Definately something he'll take notice and remember the next time he is going to break the law.
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That's really going to hurt the Bears. They struggled at times with their interior defensive line on running downs. Is Dvoracek going to be the guy who steps in to replace Tank?
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It is definately more than was expected, and I thought his positive meeting with the commish would have helped, but I think with the appeal of Pac-Man they wanted to come out tough on this one too. Hopefully Tank learns for good.
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It is definately more than was expected, and I thought his positive meeting with the commish would have helped, but I think with the appeal of Pac-Man they wanted to come out tough on this one too. Hopefully Tank learns for good.
Who do you think will replace him in the lineup?
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That's really going to hurt the Bears. They struggled at times with their interior defensive line on running downs. Is Dvoracek going to be the guy who steps in to replace Tank?
He's currently the favorite. Tommie and Dusty were tremendous together at Oklahoma, hopefully that carries over to the pro game.


I think even when Tank comes back he'll be a backup.
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Does this mean Dusty Dvoracek likely starts?

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He's currently the favorite. Tommie and Dusty were tremendous together at Oklahoma, hopefully that carries over to the pro game.


I think even when Tank comes back he'll be a backup.
You're really high on Dvoracek. I like his motor but I'm not sold on his overall ability. I guess we'll find out this season.

Bears really like to use smaller DTs. It seems like their starters are always sub-300 pound guys. They do get pressure on the QB but I think it hurts them in the run game. Wasn't that stretch where the defence was struggling caused by the defensive line (specifically the interior) not being able to be stout against the run?
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In a letter to Johnson, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said that he would be prepared to reduce the suspension to the first six regular-season games if Johnson meets certain conditions.

The conditions include:

-- No further adverse involvement with law enforcement and full compliance with any requirements imposed by a court.

-- Compliance with all league requirements, including counseling.

-- No participation in any practices or other organized team activities during the period of the suspension. Johnson may, however, be present at the Bears' facility during the suspension for counseling sessions and other approved activities such as physical treatment or individual workout sessions.

Commissioner Goodell said that he would review the matter no later than Oct. 1 to assess Johnson's progress and determine whether the suspension should be reduced.

More likely to be six I would guess. Those conditions shouldn't be hard to meet and if he gets in trouble with the law again they'll cut him anyway.
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You're really high on Dvoracek. I like his motor but I'm not sold on his overall ability. I guess we'll find out this season.
Yes I am. He was my favorite draft pick last year. I think in part because he looks like a Viking (the cool Norweigan kind, not the Purple-wearing kind).
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More likely to be six I would guess. Those conditions shouldn't be hard to meet and if he gets in trouble with the law again they'll cut him anyway.
It's going to hurt him a lot on the field if he's not able to practice with the team.
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Yes I am. He was my favorite draft pick last year. I think in part because he looks like a Viking (the cool Norweigan kind, not the Purple-wearing kind).
Good addendum, that has to be a difficult compliment for a bears fan.
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Yes I am. He was my favorite draft pick last year. I think in part because he looks like a Viking (the cool Norweigan kind, not the Purple-wearing kind).
Was worried until I read those brackets.

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I believe its 6-8 games, I may be wrong but last I yesterday there would be a meeting to decide.
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It's going to hurt him a lot on the field if he's not able to practice with the team.
I disagree. He'll still be here all through training camp and preseason and he'll workout with trainers and such during the season. If anything he'll come in fresh by week 7 or 9.

Lance Briggs, on the other hand, could be a problem if he holds out for the first 10 games because he'll miss all of training camp and there's nothing to ensure he'll show up in shape (other than the fact he wants money).
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It's six games if he complies with certain regulations. Personally, I think this was a little drastic, but I think Dusty will be able fill his shoes, and Anthony Adams will provide depth.
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I disagree. He'll still be here all through training camp and preseason and he'll workout with trainers and such during the season. If anything he'll come in fresh by week 7 or 9.

Lance Briggs, on the other hand, could be a problem if he holds out for the first 10 games because he'll miss all of training camp and there's nothing to ensure he'll show up in shape (other than the fact he wants money).
Oh, he's still allowed in training camp? That changes a lot. How is Johnson's work ethic though? Is he the type of guy who will stay in shape without coaches making him do it in practice?
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No, he is not allowed at the team portion of training camp, just into the weight room and such to work out and get treatments.

He is not allowed to practice with the team at all.
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No, he is not allowed at the team portion of training camp, just into the weight room and such to work out and get treatments.

He is not allowed to practice with the team at all.
Where do you get this at? He's going to be allowed to practice and play in all four preseason games. He's not suspended untill the regular season begins. Unless you can find a credible source to support your argument I'm almost positive you're wrong.
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Where do you get this at? He's going to be allowed to practice and play in all four preseason games. He's not suspended untill the regular season begins. Unless you can find a credible source to support your argument I'm almost positive you're wrong.
You're right. I don't know where he got that from.
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More likely to be six I would guess. Those conditions shouldn't be hard to meet and if he gets in trouble with the law again they'll cut him anyway.
yeah.

I agree with moses though on dusty. He's got the intensity, but he hasn't had the technique nor power that tank has. yet. this may be proven sometime later in the summer, but i haven't seen it from him yet.

week seven though, i still think the bears are looking to tank.

as far as the run game. really, the run game will be determined by the quality of the LB's. the particular d-line gap schooting scheme is very strange, and the faster linebackers who have superior tackling skills will succede in the lovie-2... sure, i mean, in the lovie-2, great DT's will be able to penetrate and catch runners at the point of transfer for TFL's. but seeing that that doesn't happen every time, and it's a law of averages, in the next level, someone will have to stop them. and his name is brian urlacher (and i mean, the man has a stunt double somewher on the field)... but. the lack of lance briggs will diminish their ability there. but, the presence of archuleta gives about 1/3rd of that presence back.
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Where do you get this at? He's going to be allowed to practice and play in all four preseason games. He's not suspended untill the regular season begins. Unless you can find a credible source to support your argument I'm almost positive you're wrong.
I have to agree with MasterShake. It says no organized team activities. That includes training camp, preseason games, etc. At least that's my interpretation of it.
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I have to agree with MasterShake. It says no organized team activities. That includes training camp, preseason games, etc. At least that's my interpretation of it.
but he's suspended for the regular season.

it's not clear in the text...

it's a posibility that it can go either way.

it's probably just during the regular season.
because if it was during the pre-season, his six games would be up sometime around week 3.
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but he's suspended for the regular season.

it's not clear in the text...

it's a posibility that it can go either way.

it's probably just during the regular season.
because if it was during the pre-season, his six games would be up sometime around week 3.
Pre-season games don't count as games.
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