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Old 12-16-2014, 06:02 PM    (permalink
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http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014...-northwestern/

I would expect challenges to this in the case that players do actually try to unionize.
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I would expect challenges to this in the case that players do actually try to unionize.
As it applies to the public schools the state is within its rights.
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As it applies to the public schools the state is within its rights.
I think the courts will decide this since the state doesn't recognize them as employees.
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I think the courts will decide this since the state doesn't recognize them as employees.
Classification is irrelevant in this purpose.
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Lots of tax dollars will be wasted on this fight.
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Classification is irrelevant in this purpose.
I think a judge will decide that and it will cost the state a ton of money to defend their decision. Plus, if Michigan turns out to be one of a few states that succeeds in banning a union, it could end up turning Michigan teams into nobodies as far as recruiting goes.

Let's see, I can go to a school that has no union and offers me tuition, room and board, plus a small amount of money and no guarantee that my scholarship will be retained for 4 years and no health benefits or I can go to a unionized school that offers me tuition, room and board, $20,00 to play, health benefits and a guarantee of a 4 year scholarship. H...mmmm, which school will I choose???
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Both Michigan and MSU offer 4 year guaranteed scholarships.

But your point is correct if Michigan is one of the only states to do it. I can see them still getting some players, but won't be the same.
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I'm not really sure this means all that much right now. Currently there are no NCAA teams that are unionized, so this ban isn't changing anything. This is likely being done to encourage other states to do the same. I would venture a strong guess that if NCAA teams start unionizing all across the country the Michigan schools would push for this to be repealed.
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I'd also imagine that behind the scenes this law passing means some established big unions don't necessarily want this happening. Additionally the most recent SCOTUS decision on public unions would essentially make a player Union worthless.
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I'd also imagine that behind the scenes this law passing means some established big unions don't necessarily want this happening. Additionally the most recent SCOTUS decision on public unions would essentially make a player Union worthless.
The Governor of Michigan is totally anti union, so I doubt any unions support this decision. It isn't a public union since student athletes aren't recognized as public employees. They have no access to state disability benefits, etc.
States that give student athletes the right to unionize will kill state schools that cannot unionize, in recruiting and you have to wonder if any Governor will survive politically if they become responsible for the demise of their state universities ability to compete in football and basketball.

Once colleges start paying student athletes then they become employees and the pressure will be on states to match what other states are paying their athletes, it will be real competition and any state that doesn't want to compete will become also rans. Sure, at that point states can claim they are state employees and forbid a union, but what will that accomplish except to destroy the competitiveness of their major athletic programs.

As I said previously, a can of worms that colleges have been dreading, has opened and who knows what it will look like in the end, but you can bet that a lot of schools will want to compete and accept whatever that means and if Michigan schools want to compete, they will have to follow suit or be left far behind states that accept the coming changes.

The way college football operates today will become a faint memory that you'll tell your grandchildren about.
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